Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread Mike Carrell
BlankNow that this thread has led into ancient technology in general, let me stir the pot by referring to Cremo Thompson's Hidden History of the Human Race, a condensation of Forbidden Archeology. Their invesigation pushes evidence of intelligent hominid habitation way, way back in time. It's

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread leaking pen
theres no egg here to wipe. and no, theres not really much difference. they mean the same thing. and yes, darwin was a scientist. if youve read his works, youd know that. he formulated theory, made observations, changed his theory based on observations. he allowed his religion to color his

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread leaking pen
something ive refused to believe (that we are smarter) since discovering just how many things have been known for centuries or more that influence and shape modern technology. i agree completely, we arent smarter, we just have more tools to work with. however, one thing that IS different between

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
thomas malloy wrote: Baronvolsung wrote: The movie Highlander 2, The Quickening starring Christopher Lambert, has a Really Baron, this is a science discussion group. In case anyone else hasn't noticed B.V. is a sci fi writer (amateur? not sure) who normally posts sci-fi to the list. Check out

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
RC Macaulay wrote: Back to Egyptian pyramids.. The scope of teh work and technology required leaves me wondering how much of ancient history is missing.. we actually know or understand so little. Take the library of Alexandria in Egypt that was sacked and burned in later BC. The Greeks

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike- I would guess what the Egyptians did not have is an abundance of wood to make forms.-Ges-

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread leaking pen
On 4/25/05, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith Nagel wrote: Mike writes: We moderns suffer from temporal chauvisism, the delusion that we are the smartest of all humanity [which is refuted by any teenager]. It happens that there are more tech geeks like us than

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread Baronvolsung
In a message dated 4/24/05 12:41:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Really Baron, this is a science discussion group. By that logic, you should mention the thermonuclear fusion reactors that powered Star ship Enterprise. I am using the principles of reverse engineering of

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread Baronvolsung
In a message dated 4/24/05 8:08:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Egyptians scoffed at Grecian works and architecture explaining they ( Egypt) has a history eons before Greece existed. http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/Treasury_of_Atreus.html Richard The

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-25 Thread Mike Carrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Mike- I would guess what the Egyptians did not have is an abundance of wood to make forms.-Ges- At one time Egypt was forested, but I'm not sure when. Wood for forms is a non-issue, they were re-used over and over. The wet concrete was like wet

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-24 Thread thomas malloy
Baronvolsung wrote: The movie Highlander 2, The Quickening starring Christopher Lambert, has a Really Baron, this is a science discussion group. By that logic, you should mention the thermonuclear fusion reactors that powered Star ship Enterprise. And Mike Carrol responded; MC: That is a work

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-24 Thread Mike Carrell
Tom wrote: snip I listened to an interview in which the interviewee said that the machining on the granite box's inner corners was too precise to have been done even by modern machine tools. The coffer in the King's Chamber, and others, show a precision of manufacture in granite that defies

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-24 Thread RC Macaulay
Seems antiquity is loaded with examples of engineering and architectural works that have us thinking that perhaps the people of that age were intelligent beings and had not degenerated which seems to contradict the Darwinian theorists. Jones.. look at the ceiling construction. Back to

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-24 Thread leaking pen
how... does that refute darwinian theory? at the point that humans took control of the environment, we no longer had to adapt as much to survive, therefore one WOULDNT assume that we are simply more intelligent than previous humans, we simply know more. take your personal biases OUT of a

Re: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-24 Thread RC Macaulay
Leaking pen wrote.. how... does that refute darwinian theory? at the point that humanstook control of the environment, we no longer had to adapt as much tosurvive, therefore one WOULDNT assume that we are simply moreintelligent than previous humans, we simply know more.take your personal

RE: Pyramid water pump

2005-04-24 Thread Keith Nagel
RC writes: Seems antiquity is loaded with examples of engineering and architectural works that have us thinking that perhaps the people of that age were intelligent beings and had not degenerated which seems to contradict the Darwinian theorists. I was taught to skin and tan a deer hide at the

re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-23 Thread Baronvolsung
that was directed at satellites in the sky very likely to create a force field around the Earth much like the pyramid water pump in the Highlander movie above. The pyramids in Egypt were built about 20,000 years ago according to carbon dating, so that they were built by Atlantis. The Giza pyramid power plant

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-23 Thread leaking pen
the Giza Power Plant by Christopher Dunn proves that the Giza pyramid in Egypt was used to create energy from water and hydrogen to generate an energy beam that was directed at satellites in the sky very likely to create a force field around the Earth much like the pyramid water pump

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-23 Thread Mike Carrell
pyramid in Egypt was used to create energy from water and hydrogen to generate an energy beam that was directed at satellites in the sky very likely to create a force field around the Earth much like the pyramid water pump in the Highlander movie above. MC: I have read Dunn's book and corresponded

Re: pyramid water pump

2005-04-23 Thread leaking pen
the pyramid water pump in the Highlander movie above. MC: I have read Dunn's book and corresponded with him. He is an industrial machinist who makes a few good points that many ancient Egytptian artifacts could not have been fabricated by subtractive (cutting away) technologies using

Re: Great pyramid... water pump?

2005-04-14 Thread Horace Heffner
At 9:42 AM 4/14/5, Mike Carrell wrote: Research by a Distinguished Professor in material science has shown that samples of rock from the Giza plateau are indeed synthetic. His paper is being submitted to a senior scientific publication. I thought this was determined some years ago. I recall

Re: Great pyramid... water pump?

2005-04-14 Thread Mike Carrell
Horace wrote: At 9:42 AM 4/14/5, Mike Carrell wrote: Research by a Distinguished Professor in material science has shown that samples of rock from the Giza plateau are indeed synthetic. His paper is being submitted to a senior scientific publication. I thought this was determined some

Re: Great pyramid... water pump?

2005-04-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
leaking pen wrote: I was just sent this by a friend. anyone seen it before? http://www.thepump.org/art3subcuttings.html it seems plausible, yet im immediately thinking there is an ou issue here. its essentially pumping water from the surface and back, yes no? with no extra source of energy.

Great pyramid... water pump?

2005-04-12 Thread leaking pen
I was just sent this by a friend. anyone seen it before? http://www.thepump.org/art3subcuttings.html it seems plausible, yet im immediately thinking there is an ou issue here. its essentially pumping water from the surface and back, yes no? with no extra source of energy.