Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Robert Lynn
Obviously a lot of effort went into this. I am curious, where did the information about the 1 bar pressure regulator in the outlet come from? How does that talley with the 124°C temperature that was recorded at 15:58, given that 124°C implies a pressure (saturated steam) of 2.25bar absoulute (1.2

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:03 PM 10/13/2011, Robert Lynn wrote: Obviously a lot of effort went into this. I am curious, where did the information about the 1 bar pressure regulator in the outlet come from? How does that talley with the 124°C temperature that was recorded at 15:58, given that 124°C implies a pre

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mr. Higgins did a fantastic diagram of the fat-cat... -mark

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
e on one side... I do not think that is accurate. -mark -Original Message- From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:20 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins Mr. Higgins did a fantastic diagram of the fat-cat... -mark

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins However, I'm not sure if he's got the dimensions of the heat spreaders correct. >From all the pics of the fat-cat open, the heat spreader fins look to have a uniform ~3cm clearance from the 4 walls. In Higgins' drawing,

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:19 PM 10/13/2011, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: Mr. Higgins did a fantastic diagram of the fat-cat... He offered me a higher-res version, if anyone wants it.

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:32 PM 10/13/2011, Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: The drawing I included is only meant to be a diagrammatic/schematic representation to help understand the quantities being considered. Welcome to vortex

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
al Message- From: Higgins Bob-CBH003 [mailto:bob.higg...@motorolasolutions.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:32 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins The drawing I included is only meant to be a diagrammatic/schematic representation to help understand the qua

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > Hi Bob, > I think all us Vorts appreciate the time you've put into the analyses and > diagrams... Yes! Welcome to Vortex, Bob. I'm curious. At one time it was rumored that Motorola was interested in the CETI cold fusion power cel

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
lto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins Hi Bob, I think all us Vorts appreciate the time you've put into the analyses and diagrams... I know you say the diagram is only meant to help visualize things, but from

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
M To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > Hi Bob, > I think all us Vorts appreciate the time you've put into the analyses and > diagrams... Yes! Welcome to Vortex, Bob. I'm curious.

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:26 PM 10/13/2011, Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: Hi Mark, I will consider such a drawing. However, the present diagram is not geometrically correct - the internal unit is rotated in the cross-section so as to highlight the fins. What is needed is a proper drawing from the pictures. I just do

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
mailto:bob.higg...@motorolasolutions.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:27 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins Hi Mark, I will consider such a drawing. However, the present diagram is not geometrically correct - the internal unit is rotated in the cross-section so as t

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: > At this point, I can only say that my involvement is personal.  I was > around in those Patterson days and was part of a panel that considered > Motorola's involvement.  Unfortunately, I am one of the few from that > group that is still

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
.@well.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:20 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins At 03:26 PM 10/13/2011, Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: >Hi Mark, > >I will consider such a drawing. However, the present diagram is not >geometrically correct - the internal

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Horace Heffner
A belated welcome to Bob Higgins and all the other newcomers brought here by the Rossi extravaganza. On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: Hi Bob, Having some basic dimensioning (height, width, length, etc.) would have been helpful for many of the analyses done to dat

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:58 PM 10/13/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: It does not appear there are any fins on the bottom of the reactor housing. My confidential observer said that there ARE fins on the bottom. I pleaded with him to get photos of everything WITH a ruler but here we are again pixel-peeping! An

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: I think the "resistor network" and finite element approaches discussed below are a great track for understanding the possible magnitude of the Tout error. The big uncertainty is the pipe thread. It may take experiments to estimate the

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 13, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 05:58 PM 10/13/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: It does not appear there are any fins on the bottom of the reactor housing. My confidential observer said that there ARE fins on the bottom. I pleaded with him to get photos of everything WITH

RE: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
ace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins Mark, I am working on getting better or confirming estimates. I am also working on multiple other things at the moment so please be patient. [snip]

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-14 Thread Horace Heffner
r to be inconsistent with Rossie’s statement. It is of course important to obtain accurate measurements of these values to make consistent sense of the data. -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:59 PM Subject:

Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins

2011-10-14 Thread Horace Heffner
values to make consistent sense of the data. -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner [mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Analysis by Bob Higgins Mark, I am working on getting better or confirming estimates. I am also working on