RE: [Vo]:Emergency Electric Curtailment event in Texas / more bull from Lutz

2008-03-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jeff Fink wrote: >I was heavily involved with power station design from 1970 to 1983 for oil >fired, coal fired and nuclear. I have never encountered a design where >multiple turbine generators share a common boiler or reactor. That >configuration must be quite rare. Ah. No doubt I was mistaken

RE: [Vo]:Emergency Electric Curtailment event in Texas / more bull from Lutz

2008-03-26 Thread Jeff Fink
-Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:12 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Emergency Electric Curtailment event in Texas / more bull from Lutz I believe most large coal and nuclear power plants

Re: [Vo]:Emergency Electric Curtailment event in Texas / more bull from Lutz

2008-03-26 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:48:25 -0400: Hi, [snip] >What is fundamentally different is that in the conventional system, the AC >rotating machines are locked in synchronism with the 60 Hz grid, and if any >one falls out of synch, destruction will follow. With wind t

Re: [Vo]:Emergency Electric Curtailment event in Texas / more bull from Lutz

2008-03-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: "Huge" and "small" are relative. Jed points out that wind farms may total hundreds of megawattts, having hundreds of turbines. More important, they are spread out in arrays many kilometers wide. When the wind slows down in one part of the array it will likely pick up in a

Re: [Vo]:Emergency Electric Curtailment event in Texas / more bull from Lutz

2008-03-26 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed wrote: Mike Carrell wrote: The discussion about wind is a lot of blade-waving [instead of hand-waving]. Wind is variable, no guarantee capacity will be available if the conventional system sags. That is incorrect, as the article points out. Wind is not particularly variable over larg

Re: [Vo]:Emergency Electric Curtailment event in Texas / more bull from Lutz

2008-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: The discussion about wind is a lot of blade-waving [instead of hand-waving]. Wind is variable, no guarantee capacity will be available if the conventional system sags. That is incorrect, as the article points out. Wind is not particularly variable over large areas. That i

Re: [Vo]:Emergency Electric Curtailment event in Texas / more bull from Lutz

2008-03-25 Thread Mike Carrell
The discussion about wind is a lot of blade-waving [instead of hand-waving]. Wind is variable, no guarantee capacity will be available if the conventional system sags. The virtue of wind in that case is that the generators are relatively small and distributed. More importantly, the wind turbine