In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Mon, 20 May 2013 10:57:44 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
>Updated Ragone Plot --- for the March test
>
>Power density = (4.4 ± 0.4) · 10^5 [W/kg] (34)
>Energy density = (5.1 ± 0.5) · 10^7 [Wh/kg] (35)
>
>http://lenr.qumbu.com/ragone_lawrenceliv_ecat_130520.png
>
In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Mon, 20 May 2013 20:30:59 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
:)
>> From: mix...@bigpond.com
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:11:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat report published -- Final Ragone Plot
>>
>> In reply to Alan Fletcher
Actually, that consider the device's weight. So, as Rossi claims 1 gram. It
should push at 1000x or 3 orders of magnitude beyond those ~25x I posted
in the last comment. It should be to the left and about the same height as
uranium.
2013/5/21 Daniel Rocha
> Allan's comparison that end up in Fo
Allan's comparison that end up in Forbe's website is not accurate. The
energy density is the upper bound for a week of use, not the actual value.
It was turned off after the test. The fuel did not run out. If we are to
believe Rossi's claims that it last 6 months, the scale should be pushed
25x mor
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote:
>
>> > From: mix...@bigpond.com
>> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:11:12 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat report published -- Final
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote:
> > From: mix...@bigpond.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:11:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat report published -- Final Ragone Plot
> >
> > In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Mon, 20 May 2013 1
> From: mix...@bigpond.com
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:11:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat report published -- Final Ragone Plot
>
> In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Mon, 20 May 2013 13:20:06
> I think the impact of this would be even greater on a linear rather
In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Mon, 20 May 2013 13:20:06 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
>Final Plot -- based on the igure in the paper
>
>http://lenr.qumbu.com/130520_ragone_01.png
I think the impact of this would be even greater on a linear rather than
logarithmic plot. :)
Regards,
Robin van
Jed, it is often grand & fascinating to read your take on history.
We will have to buy many politicians. It is a small price to pay.
***From your characterizations of Rossi, I think perhaps he is not willing
to pay this price. He has customers, he will sell to them until it becomes
so overwhelmin
PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat report published
James Bowery wrote:
For the essentially zero risk of putting in escrow one third of the price of
a 1MW system -- information worth billions of dollars in futures markets
alone at essentially zero cost by taking Rossi up on
James Bowery wrote:
For the essentially zero risk of putting in escrow one third of the price
> of a 1MW system -- information worth billions of dollars in futures markets
> alone at essentially zero cost by taking Rossi up on his offer of allowing
> your techs full access to run whatever tests t
> From: "MarkI-ZeroPoint"
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:22:22 PM
> Alan, can you also put in a conventional nuclear reactor used for
> Electrical power?
> Use the nuclear radiation symbol for traditional nuclear power!
> That would pretty much be the picture that is worth a thousand words.
> -mar
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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:20 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat report published -- Final Ragone Plot
Final Plot -- based on the igure in the paper
http://lenr.qumbu.com/130520_ragone_01.png
Well, give Rossi his due:
He did "prematurely" sell the low temperature 1MW system -- scare quotes
indicating that it is entirely rational for a customer with serious heat
needs to participate in what amounts to conventional technical risk of
product introduction.
What I find puzzling, however, i
Eric Walker wrote:
> > (Gee whiz : the COP came out the way we calculated it!)
>
> Very impressive location on the chart. But if I may now move the
> goalposts: that kind of energy density will never power a warp drive.
>
QUIET!!! ShutUpShutUpShutUP. If Rossi reads this, he will think: "Yes,
th
Can you suggest a caption (with the cite of the original in smaller type), eg
"Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device
containing hydrogen loaded nickel powder", Levi et al.
Fig 9 expanded to show the Ragone plot of the eCat test, March 2013.
- Original Message --
That's nifty! Thanks.
This is Fig. 9 from the paper, expanded to fit their data.
- Jed
Final Plot -- based on the igure in the paper
http://lenr.qumbu.com/130520_ragone_01.png
On May 20, 2013, at 2:50, Alan Fletcher wrote:
> (Gee whiz : the COP came out the way we calculated it!)
Very impressive location on the chart. But if I may now move the goalposts:
that kind of energy density will never power a warp drive.
Eric
Updated Ragone Plot --- for the March test
Power density = (4.4 ± 0.4) · 10^5 [W/kg] (34)
Energy density = (5.1 ± 0.5) · 10^7 [Wh/kg] (35)
http://lenr.qumbu.com/ragone_lawrenceliv_ecat_130520.png
(Note that the axes are reversed from the version used in the paper.)
I got it from http://davis
Good Stuff. Thanks for your wisdom Peter.
On Monday, May 20, 2013, Peter Gluck wrote:
> My reaction. joy and realism (I think) to the event of today:
>
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/05/the-professors-have-published-hot-cat.html
>
> Peter
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http:/
I am surprised by the date of publication: Pentecost. Pentecost means the
descent of the Holy Spirit to the Apostles.
Coincidence?
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com]
> Sent: lundi 20 mai 2013 11:51
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: R
Dear Alan,
what, a bit more exactly want you say about he COP?
Thanks
Peter
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote:
> I found an svg file with sample Rogone plots ... and superimposed the Dec
> test on it
>
> Equations 34 and 35
>
> http://www.well.com/~af/ecat_dec_chart_130520A.
I found an svg file with sample Rogone plots ... and superimposed the Dec test
on it
Equations 34 and 35
http://www.well.com/~af/ecat_dec_chart_130520A.png
(Gee whiz : the COP came out the way we calculated it!)
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