Re: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would it take...

2008-04-27 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
A lot of marginal farmland in the United States has been returned to forest land. It's the same throughout much of New England -- lots of woods, but it's all "second growth" because it all was farmland a century ago. It was terrible farmland, but in the absence of the Interstate system and ch

Re: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would it take...

2008-04-27 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jeff, Same here in Texas. Before 1870 range prairie grass fires could sweep across whole counties that acted to prevent forests from gaining a foot hold. Interesting arguments for and against "greenhouse" effect. Al Gore and Rush Limburger cheese et al should both be proud of their abili

RE: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would it take...

2008-04-27 Thread Jeff Fink
photos of the Berks county Pennsylvania area of 1900 vintage show surprising areas of cultivation that are now forest. Jeff -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 1:23 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would

Re: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would it take...

2008-04-25 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:19:31 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Robin van Spaandonk wrote: > >> >(By the >> >way, decreasing levels of free oxygen have not been examined, and >> >recent evidence shows this, too, is a threat.) >>[snip] >>At 400 quad / year energy use, and assumin

Re: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would it take...

2008-04-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: >(By the >way, decreasing levels of free oxygen have not been examined, and >recent evidence shows this, too, is a threat.) [snip] At 400 quad / year energy use, and assuming that all the energy is derived from carbon combustion (e.g. anthracite), and further assuming

Re: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would it take...

2008-04-25 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:22:59 -0400: Hi, [snip] >If volcanoes added far more CO2 to >the mix then we do, than plants would have a negligible effect and >the atmosphere and there would be practically no free oxygen. (By the >way, decreasing levels of free oxygen

Re: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would it take...

2008-04-25 Thread Taylor J. Smith
OrionWorks wrote: Assuming we could magically, starting tomorrow, stop emitting all forms of CO2 as a result of our technology: How many active volcanoes would it take to produce an equivalent amount of CO2 that humanity currently produces ... thomas malloy wrote: Compared to the volcanoes, al

Re: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would it take...

2008-04-25 Thread Nick Palmer
Further to my previous comment - there seems to have been some black propaganda put about that the output of volcanoes dwarfs what humans produce - and we are invited by this "fact" to imagine that nature's effects are much larger than humans and therefore all the talk of manmade global warming

Re: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would it take...

2008-04-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
thomas malloy wrote: Compared to the volcanoes, all 6,000,000,000 of us are the equivalent of a pimple on an elephant's rear end. That is incorrect, as shown by the stats Nick Palmer found. It is also obviously wrong because in North America, we burn roughly twice as much fossil fuel as all

Re: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would it take...

2008-04-25 Thread thomas malloy
OrionWorks wrote: Assuming we could magically, starting tomorrow, stop emitting all forms of CO2 as a result of our technology: How many active volcanoes would it take to produce an equivalent amount of CO2 that humanity currently produces and/or is indirectly Compared to the volcanoes, al

Re: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would it take...

2008-04-25 Thread Nick Palmer
I don't know how many volcanoes it would take but the global total CO2 emissions of active volcanoes is about 1/150th of what humans are doing. see this site http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/12/17/223957/72