On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
>
> If we wanted to get really twisted here ... we could propose not only
> Brown's paired-protons, operating a unit - but also to have them mate with
> a
> Mills' hydrino hydride, at deep redundancy so you go all the way from
> protons to trit
Jones Beene wrote:
As for Srinivasan, Rothwell reported that he has directly contradicted, in
> verbal discussions, some of his own prior paper’s conclusions.
>
That may be overstating it. I sent a memo to Srinivasan, copied to Beene. I
describing what I recall about Srinivasan's lecture:
"I th
I think the difference in tritium production is electrical discharge.
Degenerate electrons might open some path or channel to the production of
tritium. Remember that there is always some Deuterium in water.
Electrolysis might be the path to produce tritium.
Thermacore – no Electrolysis – no tri
One final point on all of this relates to another elusive genius - JS Brown
- and his "Superconducting Protons in Metals" arXiv:cond-mat/0504019v1
"The hitherto neglected phonon-exchange interaction between interstitial
protons in metal lattices is found to be large. It is shown that this effect
m
My bad, Eric.
And I need to set the record straight on this important detail - since
Randell Mills did find tritium - over twenty years ago - and before he
decided to distance himself from LENR !
Once again, America's Newton shoots himself in the foot ! Too bad.
Ed Storms, whose memory is much
Sorry, but I find none of these reports believable – especially in light of the
fact that a major High-Tech company, Thermacore, ran Ni + K2CO3 cells
continuously for over on year – with over a hundred thousand watt-hours of net
thermal gain, and with top notch radiation detection equipment - an
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
Eric - perhaps the original post should have been phrased as “zero
> believable evidence”… instead of zero evidence. The paper does constitute
> putative “evidence” after all – actually rather convincing if it could be
> taken at face value.
>
Rossi --- see #4
Carlo Salvi
May 21st, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Dear Mr Rossi
About the new 600° celsius e-cat:
1)Does it start with the same time of the the first ecat or is it more
faster to began to work ?
2)Does it uses the same quantity of Ni/H ?
3)Do you think it still can work for 6 month wi
r all this thin ice,
Fran
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 8:10 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Nickel-hydrogen nuclear ash
From: Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote:
IOW the mass of hydrog
I wrote:
> Now I know how people felt when isotopes were discovered.
>
I meant that isotopes came as a surprise, and people initially questioned
the experimental results rather than believe there variations in the weight
of an element.
It is an interesting episode in the history of science. I r
Jones Beene wrote:
> The overage which is "in play" in this hypothesis is the mystery energy
> source for Ni-H reactions, whether they be from Mills, Rossi, DGT,
> Piantelli, Celani, or Thermacore. It is technically nuclear energy, since
> it
> comes from a nucleus - but it does not result in re
Jones,
Not valuable. No market. Who would buy it? What would you use it for?
Half-life of tritium (hydrogen-3) is 12.3 yr.
Warm Regards,
Reliable, a thinking person
Jones Beene wrote:
Eric - perhaps the original post should have been phrased as “zero
believable evidence”… instead of zero
Eric - perhaps the original post should have been phrased as “zero believable
evidence”… instead of zero evidence. The paper does constitute putative
“evidence” after all – actually rather convincing if it could be taken at face
value.
Romodanov is a mystery. If what he was seeing and report
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
>
> Tritium is radioactive, so the evidence of radioactivity in the ash of the
> Ni-H reaction is nonzero.
>
If we allow Ni + H2O, I can provide two additional references in support of
tritium generation and, implicitly, radioactivity.
Eric
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
>
> Since there is zero evidence of high energy gammas in Ni-H reaction, and
> zero evidence of radioactivity in the ash - and only slight evidence of
> soft
> spectrum radiation,
Tritium is radioactive, so the evidence of radioactivity in the
Jones,
"ability to make macroscopic particle predictions based on microscopic
properties" is called
Statistical Mechanics, a function of the distribution of the system on
its micro-states. From nothing comes a point with predicted properties.
Aha, this one reminds me of what the experimental
From: Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote:
IOW the mass of hydrogen is not a quantum value, and there
is no rationale that predicts it will be a single value instead of a range.
In fact, mass determination of hydrogen,
Jones Beene wrote:
> IOW the mass of hydrogen is not a quantum value, and there is no rationale
> that predicts it will be a single value instead of a range. In fact,
> mass determination of hydrogen, from various labs in various countries
> varies all over the place.
>
You are saying the mass
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 21 May 2012 07:26:19 -0700:
Hi Jones,
[snip]
>-Original Message-
>From: mix...@bigpond.com
>
>Hi Robin,
>
>> Either shrinking releases energy or it consumes energy. If it "can no
>longer
>absorb EUV radiation to further shrink" then it consumes ene
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Hi Robin,
> Either shrinking releases energy or it consumes energy. If it "can no
longer
absorb EUV radiation to further shrink" then it consumes energy.
Yes, of course. Mills believes that below a certain level this process can
be autocatalyt
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 19 May 2012 06:54:33 -0700:
Hi Jones,
[snip]
>In a hybrid Millsean understanding, gammas and especially soft x-rays in the
>range of several hundred eV up to 10s of keV range are expected. Hard gammas
>are not expected. These softer gammas happen on the st
From: Eric Walker
…. no less than eleven LENR experiments in which gammas were
produced, in two cases from an Ni-H system. The detail that is remarkable
is that the levels are well below what would be expected for the energy that
is produced...
T
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM, David Roberson wrote:
>
> Also, does anyone have references to replicated experiments with the
> Ni-H systems regarding the ash products? I am aware of the many excellent
> results that have been published in reference to the palladium electrolysis
> cells and
I do not know of any solid information on Ni cold fusion reactions or
products. I wish I did. We really need that.
- Jed
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