Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: And it can be triggered by completely innocent actions on the part of the soon-to-be compulsive gamblers. Anyone with RLS (Restless Leg Syndrome) may be at risk for becoming a compulsive gambler, at least if neither they nor their

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: Horace wrote: The final player remaining after all the 19 others go broke would be given a prize that depends on how many bets he can make from his remaining purse before going broke. That would be a pretty illuminating contest, don't you

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-03 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: R C Macaulay a very close look at Stillwater Mining ( SWC) should give one pause as an example of how to play poker with a pinocle deck while performing wonders with numbers while eating cucumbers... the stock jumped from 1.60 to above 5.00 Richard,

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-03 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jones, Stockscouter sez there are some big institutional boys dumping SWC before they run outa money. Mystery how they do it by making the share price increase.. but.. who knows. It appears that these 10 buck internet stock peddlers have a way of getting an order from a buyer, pool the

RE: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-03 Thread Mark Iverson
If we're talking stocks, have a look at a local outfit... www.nevadaexploration.com Check out the presentation on the results of Phase-I drilling at Fletcher Junction... www.tsx.com symbol NGE; on the american side it trades under the symbol NVDEF. Just to be up front about it, I do own

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Horace Heffner wrote: On Dec 31, 2008, at 4:28 AM, R C Macaulay wrote: Compulsive gambling is one of the most insidious forms of addiction. So true. And the addiction is compounded by free drinks and environments and games specifically designed for psychological impact. And it can be

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-02 Thread John Berry
One thing to be said of lotteries is that it is the only kind of unskilled gambling that makes sense. Besides any rare possible ability to effect/predict the results there is no reason to gamble. (excluding games of skill such as BlackJack, Poker, sports bets) But playing the lottery does make

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 1, 2009, at 6:48 PM, I wrote: I think there is a serious need to scientifically determine just how many problem gamblers would not have been exposed to their problem if they knew the full truth about gambling machines, and to determine how effective proper training in this regard

RE: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-02 Thread Mark Iverson
[mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:20 PM To: Vortex-L Subject: Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber On Jan 1, 2009, at 6:48 PM, I wrote: I think there is a serious need to scientifically determine just how many problem gamblers would not have been exposed

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: Horace: I'll take your word on the fact that Nevada Gaming Regs allow for a min of 75%, but typical payouts are 88% to 96%. The min that I have seen is 84% -- I live in Reno, Nevada. The complementary term is called '%-Hold', which is what

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: Horace: I'll take your word on the fact that Nevada Gaming Regs allow for a min of 75%, but typical payouts are 88% to 96%. The min that I have seen is 84% -- I live in Reno, Nevada. The complementary term is called '%-Hol BTW, it is

RE: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-02 Thread Mark Iverson
can sit and have a nice dinner while watching everyone else go 'broke'... -Mark -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner [HYPERLINK mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net mailto:hheff...@mtaonline.net] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Randum

RE: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-02 Thread Mark Iverson
@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: Horace: I'll take your word on the fact that Nevada Gaming Regs allow for a min of 75%, but typical payouts are 88% to 96%. The min that I have seen is 84% -- I live in Reno, Nevada

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-01 Thread R C Macaulay
Compulsive gambling is one of the most insidious forms of addiction. This strange phenemona has both gender and ethnic mores. Women addicts outnumber men as evidenced by visiting any casino. The Chinese have a high addiction rate. Fortunately, the patrons at the Dime Box Saloon have the only

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-01 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 31, 2008, at 4:28 AM, R C Macaulay wrote: Compulsive gambling is one of the most insidious forms of addiction. So true. And the addiction is compounded by free drinks and environments and games specifically designed for psychological impact. However, according to Wiki [see

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2009-01-01 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Horace, Not to worry, The state of Texas contracted with G-Tech of Rhode Island to run the lotto for Texas. The sales pitch to get the vote for lottery gambling focused on the proceeds that would would fund education. Of the 1/3 of the net revenue passed onto the state..Exactly who got

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2008-12-31 Thread John Berry
erm, every contest she ever entered. On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.netwrote: On Dec 30, 2008, at 5:51 PM, John Berry wrote: Well then there is: www.the*winningsage*.comhttp://www.thewinningsage.com/ If you believe it, she has apparently won every

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2008-12-31 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: On Dec 30, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Jones Beene wrote: At casinos, over 999 out of 1000 regular players are net losers. That is no secret. And it is of almost no deterrence to the losers. Those odds are not fixed, but

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2008-12-31 Thread Terry Blanton
You are giving away the secret! http://www.thesecret.tv/ Terry On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:51 PM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote: Well then there is: www.thewinningsage.com If you believe it, she has apparently won every contest she has ever won and she has entered thousands. Tony

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2008-12-31 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 31, 2008, at 4:06 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: On Dec 30, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Jones Beene wrote: At casinos, over 999 out of 1000 regular players are net losers. That is no secret. And it is of almost no

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2008-12-31 Thread Terry Blanton
I'm sorry, Horace. I understood. I was merely pointing out that luck plays no part with the one-armed bandits over time. Slot machine income is quite predictable. But a friend just returning from Lost Wages says that the Casinos there are empty. She said that she was inundated with free drink

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2008-12-31 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 31, 2008, at 7:46 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: I'm sorry, Horace. I understood. I was merely pointing out that luck plays no part with the one-armed bandits over time. Slot machine income is quite predictable. Yes indeed, the average per bet take is highly predictable and controlled.

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2008-12-30 Thread John Berry
Well then there is: www.the*winningsage*.comhttp://www.thewinningsage.com/ If you believe it, she has apparently won every contest she has ever won and she has entered thousands. Tony Robbins recounds how at one of his seminars he told people to choose something and to really believe in it to

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2008-12-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 30, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Jones Beene wrote: At casinos, over 999 out of 1000 regular players are net losers. That is no secret. And it is of almost no deterrence to the losers. Those odds are not fixed, but vary with time gambling. Except for games of skill, like poker between real

Re: [Vo]:Randum , Randumb, Randumber

2008-12-30 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 30, 2008, at 5:51 PM, John Berry wrote: Well then there is: www.thewinningsage.com If you believe it, she has apparently won every contest she has ever won and she has entered thousands. As long as she has won at least one, she has won every contest she has ever won. Best