Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread Analog Fan
There are no short opportunities either for this kind of pump and dump. Read that sentence over to yourself a dozen times or so.   Eventually you'll realize you just logically said A !A. Jones analysis is essentially correct. It's very difficult to short Canadian pump and dump stocks. Most

RE: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread Jones Beene
You are correct AF. There is little way for any outside investor to benefit from a DGT stock offering - no matter what they have... and I think that they do have a valid thermal anomaly in the early stages of development. It will be a laugh to see how many billions of shares they have available.

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread Daniel Rocha
How can you possibly know these things? 2013/8/13 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net DGT are a minimum of three years from a commercial product and much longer from mass production. They have no valid patent. Their process seems to infringe on half a dozen patent applications, which have

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
Good comment, Jones. I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, the well was poisoned from the start by the US patent office refusal to accept ANY patent for many years and the DOE panel by its one sided conclusion, both of which created a legal situation that doomed any serious study of

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
James, your comment might be right, but I suggest we have a bigger problem. Since patent protection for the basic process is not possible, a patent for the best application is the only protection. This is similar to the situation in mature technologies. However, a great deal of money will

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread James Bowery
Perhaps it is the winning path for this technology but for his investors? I have a bit of experience with international patent law, having paid for a rocket engine patent http://www.google.co.in/patents/US6212876's international filing. In my situation, there was no option but to obtain a patent

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread blaze spinnaker
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: You are correct AF. There is little way for any outside investor to benefit from a DGT stock offering - no matter what they have... and I think that they do have a valid thermal anomaly in the early stages of development.

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread James Bowery
We have a conflation of issues getting in the way of communication: First, I hope my introduction of the jurisdictional arbitrage tactic has laid to rest the notion that the US patent office's criminal conspiracy is blocking, even though its influence may pervade the much if not most of the

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
Let me see if I can be clearer. I believe the LENR situation is not like any other. First of all, the basic explanation is not accepted. In contrast, the basic explanation is accepted about other technologies. This means that the patent office will not grant a patent based on the basic

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread James Bowery
OK, so in addition to the conflation of the [criminally conspiratorial US --JAB] patent office with *any reasonable patent office*, we have the conflation of research with development. Clearly, in the context of patent funding, discussion of research funding must be separated from discussion of

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread Edmund Storms
So that we are clear, James, research is a term used to describe the investigation of anything. The term research can be used to develop an application or to seek commercial use, all of which can be described as requiring research. The term basic research is generally used to describe your

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-13 Thread Alain Sepeda
An idea came to me ? If patent were deposited early 2012, when will they be publicated, even if pending ? if one company have good patent which get public, what should they do ? what could they do ? what should they be afraid of? what should they do so ? who claimed to have filed patents in that

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
He cannot do such thing, fortunately. 2013/8/12 blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com Right now, given that Luca (the only known physics PHd with a track record in the bunch) has suspended biz in Italy due to inconsistencies on the testing, I'm betting incompetence / fraud, but I think a

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-12 Thread blaze spinnaker
Well, then fortunately it will be a great short selling opportunity! Always on the look out for such things. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: He cannot do such thing, fortunately. 2013/8/12 blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com Right now, given

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-12 Thread blaze spinnaker
Let me be clear though, I think Defkalion could turn this situation around. Go out strong with Luca (or someone with equal credibility, he's not the only physics PHD with a track record in the world) leading a *simple and clear demonstration* that proves the tech. Allow for a tear down

RE: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-12 Thread Jones Beene
From: blaze spinnaker The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st...is that they will soon either provide extraordinary evidence or they are a fraud (and therefore an obvious short selling opportunity). Wrong. There is almost no stock market

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

2013-08-12 Thread blaze spinnaker
There are no short opportunities either for this kind of pump and dump. Read that sentence over to yourself a dozen times or so. Eventually you'll realize you just logically said A !A. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: From: blaze