[vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Dylan Beaudette
Hi everyone, I haven't bothered to try out the CDROM drive on this machine since linux was installed, and now with a 2.6 series kernel my CDROM drive has vanished! (or at least from the perspective of commands like mount) The drive is connected to the primary IDE channel, and my hard drive is

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 10:18 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi everyone, I haven't bothered to try out the CDROM drive on this machine since linux was installed, and now with a 2.6 series kernel my CDROM drive has vanished! (or at least from the perspective of commands like mount)

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 10:35 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 13 January 2005 10:16 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 10:18 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi everyone, I haven't bothered to try out the CDROM drive on this machine since linux

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 1:30 PM, p p said: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 10:35 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 13 January 2005 10:16 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 10:18 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi everyone, I haven't bothered to try out

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Dylan Beaudette
On Thursday 13 January 2005 10:48 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 1:30 PM, p p said: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 10:35 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 13 January 2005 10:16 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 10:18 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
here is some output from dmesg regarding all that is IDE: PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller :00:1f.2 Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx ..perhaps a module for the IDE controller is not

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Dylan Beaudette
On Thursday 13 January 2005 11:04 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: here is some output from dmesg regarding all that is IDE: PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller :00:1f.2 Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 11:20 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 13 January 2005 11:04 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: here is some output from dmesg regarding all that is IDE: PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller :00:1f.2 Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision:

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Dylan Beaudette
On Thursday 13 January 2005 11:16 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 11:20 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 13 January 2005 11:04 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: here is some output from dmesg regarding all that is IDE: PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 11:26 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 13 January 2005 11:16 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Can you post the output of: mount and: hdparm /dev/hda hdparm /dev/hdb hdparm /dev/hdc hdparm /dev/hdd hdparm /dev/hde

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Jonathan Stickel
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 11:26 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 13 January 2005 11:16 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Can you post the output of: mount and: hdparm /dev/hda hdparm /dev/hdb hdparm /dev/hdc hdparm /dev/hdd hdparm /dev/hde hdparm

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Richard S. Crawford
Ken Bloom said: Here's google's answer: [snip] That said, we know that many useful search terms do contain such characters. We've generated exceptions for terms like C++ and $10 and are studying ways to enable search terms like C/net. We'll keep your feedback in mind as we work to improve

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
:Here would be my reply ,Dear Google .Somebody capable of describing What's broken under Unix will be able figure out why punctuation *before* a search term will not significantly alter the delivery time of search results :Hint .See this email ,Sincerely Peter Jay Salzman On Thu 13 Jan

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 11:40:49AM -0800, Richard S. Crawford wrote: I've always thought it would be really cool if we could search Google using regular expressions. I think the problem here is how it's indexed. If it sees .forward, it just sticks it in the pile of pages that contain the

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Ken Bloom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Here's google's answer: It's obviously a boilerplate, canned response. If you want to pursue the matter, you'll want to follow up with I understand your need to use generic, prepared texts, but the one you replied with in this case completely missed the

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 11:40 AM, Jonathan Stickel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 11:26 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 13 January 2005 11:16 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Can you post the output of: mount and: hdparm

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:05 PM, Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Quoting Ken Bloom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Here's google's answer: It's obviously a boilerplate, canned response. If you want to pursue the matter, you'll want to follow up with I understand your need to use generic, prepared

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Dylan Beaudette
On Thursday 13 January 2005 11:27 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 11:26 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 13 January 2005 11:16 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Can you post the output of: mount and: hdparm /dev/hda hdparm

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Josh Parsons
On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 15:06 -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: what bothers me is whether you use SCSI or IDE, the mount command should STILL tell you what partitions are mounted. Unless his mtab is screwed up. In which case it would be helpful to see the output of cat /proc/mounts. -- Josh

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Dylan Beaudette
On Thursday 13 January 2005 12:06 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 11:40 AM, Jonathan Stickel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 11:26 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 13 January 2005 11:16 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Dylan Beaudette
On Thursday 13 January 2005 12:18 pm, Josh Parsons wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 15:06 -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: what bothers me is whether you use SCSI or IDE, the mount command should STILL tell you what partitions are mounted. Unless his mtab is screwed up. In which case it would be

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Ken Herron
Dylan Beaudette wrote: The [cdrom] drive is connected to the primary IDE channel, and my hard drive is connected to a serial IDE channel. As of kernel 2.6 my hard drive is accessed as a SCSI device. However, my cdrom drive does not answer to requests sent to hda,hdb,hdc,hdd ... nor to any SCSI

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:22 PM, Ken Herron [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Dylan Beaudette wrote: The [cdrom] drive is connected to the primary IDE channel, and my hard drive is connected to a serial IDE channel. As of kernel 2.6 my hard drive is accessed as a SCSI device. However, my cdrom drive does

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Mark K. Kim
Unless you've indexed a right-to-left language that has punctuation marks?? Or if you've indexed quoted text with the quote character before the term? Or if you've indexed *strong text* with the star character before the term? Or if you've indexed /regexp string/ or /italicized string/ with the

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 3:29 PM, p p said: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:22 PM, Ken Herron [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Dylan Beaudette wrote: The [cdrom] drive is connected to the primary IDE channel, and my hard drive is connected to a serial IDE channel. As of kernel 2.6 my hard drive is accessed as

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:31 PM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Unless you've indexed a right-to-left language that has punctuation marks?? Or if you've indexed quoted text with the quote character before the term? Or if you've indexed *strong text* with the star character before the

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Mark K. Kim
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Ken Bloom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Here's google's answer: It's obviously a boilerplate, canned response. Of course! But if there's an enough request for a feature, they'll bring it up on their next corporate meeting. Everyone e-mail Google!

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:34 PM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Ken Bloom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Here's google's answer: It's obviously a boilerplate, canned response. Of course! But if there's an enough request for a feature, they'll

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 03:13:23PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Anyone who searches for .vimrc means .vimrc. In this case, the dot is a literal, so .forward is as distinct from forward as cat is distinct from dog. These (Unix dotfiles) are good special case that Google should consider

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Mark K. Kim
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:31 PM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Unless you've indexed a right-to-left language that has punctuation marks?? Or if you've indexed quoted text with the quote character before the term? Or if you've indexed

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 12:42:12PM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote: Most dotfile has a corresponding /etc file with same syntax so... should Google allow dotfile searches specifically for unix users but not their global equivalents? I don't think a generic search engine like Google should be that

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Mark K. Kim
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:34 PM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Ken Bloom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Here's google's answer: It's obviously a boilerplate, canned response. Of course!

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:42 PM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:31 PM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Unless you've indexed a right-to-left language that has punctuation marks?? Or if you've indexed quoted

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 03:46:54PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:40 PM, Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: snip A bucket for .forward, a bucket for forward., a bucket for forward, a bucket for forward;, a bucket for forward?, a bucket for forward!, ... and so on.

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:54 PM, Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Again, we're talking about dotfiles. Not general punctuation. So I ask: Would that REALLY cause their database to melt down in panic? THAT would not. But what they responded with was generic: If we support

[vox-tech] Perl programming problem

2005-01-13 Thread Richard S. Crawford
I'm trying to write a script which will live on my server at home and which will ping our server at work every five minutes or so, and send an e-mail message when it goes down or comes back up. I've got everything working fine, except for the e-mail part. Whenever it sends an e-mail out to my

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 03:57:58PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: I think it would be hilarious if we started a thread on slashdot: What's broken on Google and how would you fix it? It would be an interesting thread to read... :) Dude, go for it! -bill! (automatically ignore all

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Mark K. Kim
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:42 PM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [quotes trimmed - getting way too long!] Most dotfile has a corresponding /etc file with same syntax so... Yes, but I don't care about /etc/application/2.1.5/config/.dotfile. I care

Re: [vox-tech] Perl programming problem

2005-01-13 Thread Mark K. Kim
You have to set the sender (I guess the From: line) to an e-mail address that is valid from the internet. localhost.localdomain is, from unexmail.ucdavis.edu's point of view, is itself, and it knows richard doesn't exist on its mailing system. Also, look into sendmail's -f option. -Mark On

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 01:25:49PM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote: The syntax for /etc/vimrc (or more accurately, /usr/share/vim/.../vimrc) is same as that of ~/etc/.vimrc. So why would one be motivated to search for .vimrc when one simply wants to find out the syntax of vimrc files in general?

Re: [vox-tech] Perl programming problem

2005-01-13 Thread Richard S. Crawford
Mark K. Kim said: You have to set the sender (I guess the From: line) to an e-mail address that is valid from the internet. localhost.localdomain is, from unexmail.ucdavis.edu's point of view, is itself, and it knows richard doesn't exist on its mailing system. Actually, I do. Here is the

Re: [vox-tech] Perl programming problem

2005-01-13 Thread Mitch Patenaude
On Jan 13, 2005, at 1:46 PM, Richard S. Crawford wrote: Actually, I do. Here is the relevant code: my $fromAddress='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; my $toAddress='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; my $body=Neo is down as of $timeString\n; my $mailer=open ({From = $fromAddress, To = toAddress, Subject=$subject}); print

Re: [vox-tech] Perl programming problem

2005-01-13 Thread Josh Parsons
On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 12:58 -0800, Richard S. Crawford wrote: I'm trying to write a script which will live on my server at home and which will ping our server at work every five minutes or so, and send an e-mail message when it goes down or comes back up. You might be re-inventing the

Re: [vox-tech] Perl programming problem

2005-01-13 Thread Richard S. Crawford
Mitch Patenaude said: The PERL module you are using is almost certainly just passing off the mail to your underlying Mail Transport Agent (MTA). It looks like your home machine's MTA isn't configured correctly. You can try to send the mail directly from the command line with the command

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working [now i can't boot]

2005-01-13 Thread Dylan Beaudette
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 3:29 PM, p p said: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:22 PM, Ken Herron [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Dylan Beaudette wrote: The [cdrom] drive is connected to the primary IDE channel, and my hard drive is connected to a serial IDE channel. As of kernel 2.6 my hard drive is accessed

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Mark K. Kim
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 1:25 PM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [snip for brevity] The syntax for /etc/vimrc (or more accurately, /usr/share/vim/.../vimrc) Why more accurately? Debian testing (my desktop): $ls /etc/vimrc ls: /etc/vimrc: No

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working [now i can't boot]

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 13 Jan 05, 3:52 PM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 3:29 PM, p p said: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:22 PM, Ken Herron [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Dylan Beaudette wrote: The [cdrom] drive is connected to the primary IDE channel, and my hard drive is

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working...

2005-01-13 Thread Richard Harke
On Thursday 13 January 2005 12:32, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 3:29 PM, p p said: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:22 PM, Ken Herron [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Dylan Beaudette wrote: The [cdrom] drive is connected to the primary IDE channel, and my hard drive is connected to a serial

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Mark K. Kim
Mark vs. the World... On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Bill Kendrick wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 01:25:49PM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote: The syntax for /etc/vimrc (or more accurately, /usr/share/vim/.../vimrc) is same as that of ~/etc/.vimrc. So why would one be motivated to search for .vimrc when

Re: [vox-tech] Perl programming problem

2005-01-13 Thread Ken Herron
Richard S. Crawford wrote: my $fromAddress='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; my $toAddress='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; my $body=Neo is down as of $timeString\n; my $mailer=open ({From = $fromAddress, To = toAddress, Subject=$subject}); print $mailer $body; $mailer-close(); My guess is that you're not setting the

Re: [vox-tech] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [#19464334] Searching for dotfiles]

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
S... Don't tell Mark. You'll ruin his day! ;-) Pete On Thu 13 Jan 05, 3:29 PM, Ken Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: After seeing the volume of responses that I have seen pop up in the last few hours, here's what I think google should do: They should have a secret option punct: that

Re: [vox-tech] Plextor PX-712A not working [mostly fixed]

2005-01-13 Thread Dylan Beaudette
On Thursday 13 January 2005 02:50 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 3:52 PM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 3:29 PM, p p said: On Thu 13 Jan 05, 12:22 PM, Ken Herron [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Dylan Beaudette wrote: The [cdrom] drive is

Re: [vox-tech] Perl programming problem

2005-01-13 Thread Mark K. Kim
BTW, are you running the script as a root or as a user? Try as root and see if that works. -Mark On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Ken Herron wrote: Richard S. Crawford wrote: my $fromAddress='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; my $toAddress='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; my $body=Neo is down as of $timeString\n; my