[wdvltalk] RE: Web Site Price

2004-08-11 Thread Clancy Jones
I too have dug this discussion. It's great to hear some discussion of the human side of web development for a change and how other people handle the all too common battle to justify fair rates. Rock on, Clancy From: "ANDREA STREIGHT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL P

[wdvltalk] RE: Web Site Price

2004-08-11 Thread ANDREA STREIGHT
I enjoyed the discussion of pricing for web work. I had a recent client who wanted me to improve the textual content of his web site, and turn on some Search Engine Optimization in the copy and so on. It was a little schlocky web site for personal storage units. A web content mgmt. friend said I

[wdvltalk] Re: Stripe at top of website

2004-08-11 Thread mrport
Thanks Jan. I will. Riva On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:23:30 -0700 jdmajor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Riva > Yes, I like the page. It's simple but very attractive with the > colors > you have designed for it. Let us know when you have added more pages > ok. > > Jan Riva Portman, MCIWD Certifie

[wdvltalk] Re: Stripe at top of website

2004-08-11 Thread jdmajor
Riva Yes, I like the page. It's simple but very attractive with the colors you have designed for it. Let us know when you have added more pages ok. Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Jan. I just nudge the graphic up a bit and it all works fine now. :-) Riva P.S. Any opinions on the page itself

[wdvltalk] Re: Stripe at top of website

2004-08-11 Thread mrport
Thanks Jan. I just nudge the graphic up a bit and it all works fine now. :-) Riva P.S. Any opinions on the page itself? On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:55:29 -0700 jdmajor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Riva, > I have had that happen to me also. I didn't know that it had a white > > strip on top of it

[wdvltalk] Re: ASP Arrays OO

2004-08-11 Thread Clancy Jones
Thanks guys. I'm still not convinced that I should be declaring the OO array any differently than I am already. I'm basing this on the fact that isArray(gvobjCart.Items) returns true and I can loop through gvobjCart.Items by... For Each gvstrElement in gvobjCart.Items response.write "gvstr

[wdvltalk] Re: Stripe at top of website

2004-08-11 Thread jdmajor
Riva, I have had that happen to me also. I didn't know that it had a white strip on top of it until I opened it in PaintShop Pro, and there it is. Sorry. The good news is once I cropped off the white part at the top, the page is perfect. Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is strange - I didn't d

[wdvltalk] Re: Stripe at top of website

2004-08-11 Thread mrport
That is strange - I didn't design it that way . . . Thanks! Riva On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:37:55 -0700 jdmajor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Riva > All I can see that is causing the white line at the top is because > your > background.gif has a white space at the top. Crop off that white > strip

[wdvltalk] Re: Stripe at top of website

2004-08-11 Thread jdmajor
Riva All I can see that is causing the white line at the top is because your background.gif has a white space at the top. Crop off that white strip and it should work just fine. Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I put up a "placeholder" page for a client and find that it appears with a white

[wdvltalk] Stripe at top of website

2004-08-11 Thread mrport
Hi all, I put up a "placeholder" page for a client and find that it appears with a white line at the top of the browser window (IE and NN). Any idea why? http://www.parkviewinvestorslending.com TIA, Riva • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: ma

[wdvltalk] Re: Website price

2004-08-11 Thread David Blakey
In the past, when my methodology for pricing a site was more along the lines of "eyeball and guess", I just presented a discounted price of what I thought they could afford, without any mention of normal price and several times had people try to get me to lower it yet again which at the time,

[wdvltalk] Re: positioning and width problems, IE PC

2004-08-11 Thread jdmajor
Rita I couldn't access your pages listed below, I get a message that it can't be found, and I realized that you accidentally left out the "i" in crisafi and once inserted I got the page immediately. I've done that myself so many times, isn't that nuts? The "blue" background you refer to is actu

[wdvltalk] Re: hiding email addresses

2004-08-11 Thread mrport
Thank you Mark. I was putting an & instead of a ? - duh! :-) Riva On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:49:03 -0700 "Mark Groen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No problem, if the email subject stays the same you can do this which just uses the extended features of the mailto: link and document.write it out: >

[wdvltalk] Re: proper address - positioning and width problems, IE PC

2004-08-11 Thread Stephen Caudill
Did you validate your HTML and CSS? This is the first and most important step of tableless design. Go do that now. Don't use the box model hack. put IE in 'standards mode' (include an XHTML doctype, don't include an xml namespace or xml declaration) and enjoy the peace and tranquility of a con

[wdvltalk] Re: hiding email addresses

2004-08-11 Thread Mark Groen
- Original Message - From: <> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: August 11, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: hiding email addresses > I just used this on a website and was wondering if there is a way to add > a subject to the e-mail? I tried something along the same lines but it > just a

[wdvltalk] Re: hiding email addresses

2004-08-11 Thread jdmajor
Riva, I use the following format for including a subject: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Development and Design - About Us Page">[EMAIL PROTECTED] I use the javascript program that changes the email "mailto" to ASCII code. I don't use the method you show below, but I'm sure you can modify it to inclu

[wdvltalk] Re: Website price

2004-08-11 Thread Cheryl D Wise
My sister-in-law wanted me to recommend someone who would do all her site updates for her at $10-20 a month including "surfing the web" for stuff to copy to her site. She's too busy to do it herself and it isn't like she wants them to do anything hard. Never mind copyright laws even if her husban

[wdvltalk] proper address - positioning and width problems, IE PC

2004-08-11 Thread Rita Crisafi
D'oh! I'm trying to get my page to work, it works nicely in mac environment but gets messed up in pc see: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=88277 i used faux columns (the left column blue color is a background image, i did this because my client wants to put in all kinds of differen

[wdvltalk] Re: positioning and width problems, IE PC

2004-08-11 Thread Stephen Caudill
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:11:35 -0400, Rita Crisafi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you can see my page here: > > http://www.crisafdesign.com/verrazano/test2.html Nope, I can't: "www.crisafidesign.com can not be found. Please check the name and try again." - Stephen • The WDVL Discussion List

[wdvltalk] Re: hiding email addresses

2004-08-11 Thread mrport
Hi all, I just used this on a website and was wondering if there is a way to add a subject to the e-mail? I tried something along the same lines but it just appended itself onto the e-mail address. TIA, Riva > src="contact/beau.js"> > > that references the script for each address and I keep t

[wdvltalk] Re: Website price

2004-08-11 Thread Cheryl D Wise
I too do offer discounts but based on specific criteria. I have one discount that I give to "qualified" non-profits (I decide who qualifies) which so far have included churches (not mine), school/neighborhood organizations, etc. and cub scouts (my husband volunteered that one as a freebie). I also

[wdvltalk] positioning and width problems, IE PC

2004-08-11 Thread Rita Crisafi
I'm trying to get my page to work, it works nicely in mac environment but gets messed up in pc see: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=88277 i used faux columns (the left column blue color is a background image, i did this because my client wants to put in all kinds of different leng

[wdvltalk] Re: Website price

2004-08-11 Thread mrport
There is a joke about a doctor going up to a lawyer at a party. He asked the lawyer if he could ask him a question. The lawyer said he could. The doctor then said, "Whenever I am at a party or out socially I get people coming up to me to ask me medical questions. Do you think I should charge th

[wdvltalk] Re: Website price

2004-08-11 Thread mrport
My "first" website client asked me how much it was gonna cost him. His words were, "So how much do I owe you? $10? $20? $50?" He nearly fell off his chair when I said $500. (And that was cheap!!) Riva On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:51:34 +0100 "Ross Clutterbuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've got

[wdvltalk] Re: Website price

2004-08-11 Thread Scott Glasgow
> possibility to call me and ask me to lower my price. I wonder whether he > would do the same for a plumber or a doctor or a mechanic?? > That part really irks me, too. I've had acquaintances who have, in essence, assumed that because I was in the business I would "help them out." One, an ASE-ce

[wdvltalk] Re: ASP Arrays OO

2004-08-11 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
I'll have a proper look for you as soon as I can Clancy but for now Jure said: > The second thing is indexing: Arrays don't start at 0, but instead at 1 In VBScript Arrays DO start indexing at 0 so Clancy's referencing (0, 0) is correct. MOU ? The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM ? ___

[wdvltalk] Re: Website price

2004-08-11 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
And a little something from me too... I've got two flat rates I operate when doing my freelance work: one for professional clients and one for friends/family. The friends/family rate basically equate to me producing things "at cost" (which in itself has a certain markup because generally I have no

[wdvltalk] RE: ASP to Something Else ???????

2004-08-11 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Dwayne, > Given the architecture I briefly touched upon above... > any way to deliver this in a static HTML page? How about a script on the ASP-equipped server which writes the HTML to a file? You could run it via a scheduled task or simply call it whenever the client uploads another newsle

[wdvltalk] Re: ASP to Something Else ???????

2004-08-11 Thread Stephen Caudill
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 08:13:30 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Given the architecture I briefly touched upon above... any way to deliver > this in a static HTML page? I'm thinking they will just need a page of > hyperlinks that is updated by the web developer. Or, is there another > dynamic method?

[wdvltalk] ASP to Something Else ???????

2004-08-11 Thread dwayne . conyers
Have a client who wanted to provide download access to their weekly newsletter. They have a severly limited infrastructure -- no database access allowed... ActiveX, .NET, Java or any other technology. Their server is IIS, so I was able to do some hand-coded ASP scripting to allow them to upload f

[wdvltalk] Re: Website price

2004-08-11 Thread Stephen Caudill
Just to poke my fat opinion in... I give discounts. But I make the client aware that they are receiving one. My current method for providing a quote involves doing an initial interview for data gathering and needs assessment, followed by a quick IA mock-up of the site in question (this is purel

[wdvltalk] Re: Website price

2004-08-11 Thread mrport
One thing that amazes me is that this guy would think that it was a possibility to call me and ask me to lower my price. I wonder whether he would do the same for a plumber or a doctor or a mechanic?? The truth is that he doesn't need a big website, if at all. He is a divorce mediator and his cl

[wdvltalk] Re: ASP Arrays OO

2004-08-11 Thread Jure Spik
Hi there are two options I see why it's not working. One is, as you assumed, declaration of a 2d array: In my knowledge it has to be done this way: dim arS reDim arS(2) The second thing is indexing: Arrays don't start at 0, but instead at 1, so arS(2)="name" is a valid statement. Have fun, Jure

[wdvltalk] Free FTP & HTML Editor software for MAC

2004-08-11 Thread jac
Guys, could i get your recommendations on free html editors & ftp programmes for a MAC. I have a client that will be attempting to update a "News" page on her site and she's on a apple laptop. I know NOTHING when it comes to macs so all advice is very much appreciated. cheers & TIA jac •