[wdvltalk] Re: Pop ups situations

2003-10-28 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Dominique, So, I'm assuming that other people are using the same kind of dumb popup guards which block every new window. [...] Can I get some feedback as to how some of you are handling this? The only truly safe way to avoid your popups being blocked is not to use popups :-) If you must

[wdvltalk] Re: Pop ups situations

2003-10-28 Thread Bj
Re Dominique's problem, wanting to open pages in a new window but being blocked as if it were a popup.. I would add this to Jon's contribution - if you open your links in a new named window using JavaScript, your original window should then be able to check for the existence of the new window to

[wdvltalk] Re: Pop ups situations

2003-10-28 Thread Adam Cork
Ok, I haven't really been following this thread, but mozilla's built in pop up blocker doesn't stop pop ups generated from a link, only *unrequested* pop ups, don't know about third party blockers though. I personally hate going to a site that starts throwing new windows at me, whether it's

[wdvltalk] RE: Pop ups situations

2003-10-28 Thread Trusz, Andrew
_target is deprecated in CSS2. Which I suppose is a not very subtle way of discouraging the use of popups. Similarly, the incorporation of event handlers like onmousover etc into the browser discourages the over use of javascript. Find a way to do it without js for accessibility and then you don't

[wdvltalk] Re: Pop ups situations

2003-10-28 Thread Dominique Clawson
Joseph wrote: Dominique, So the options narrow considerably; I take it frames are now frowned on as being useful to achieve both the original window (in part at least) and changing information. Exactly, I used to have a frame buster for my home page, but now, our university is developing a

[wdvltalk] Re: Pop ups situations

2003-10-27 Thread Pace Computing Limited
Hey there, Well, I design quite a few pops for various clients from time to time. Since everyone started using these pop blockers it has been a nightmare. I have clients who say, Well, I have such and such a program, can you get them through that? Or, I can get it through this one, but not

[wdvltalk] Re: Pop ups situations

2003-10-27 Thread Dominique Clawson
, 2003 2:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Pop ups situations I work on a site where the policy is: when a visitor clicks on an external link we target a new window, and to minimize the amount of windows we usually send it to a named window. We also design quizzes that open

[wdvltalk] Re: Pop ups situations

2003-10-27 Thread Dominique Clawson
Clawson Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Pop ups situations Hi David: Yes, I do like you, I use target=windowName (your third named alternative). And I never thought of those as popups either until I saw our popup guard in action. And of course

[wdvltalk] Re: Pop ups situations

2003-10-27 Thread Joseph Harris
David, - a new named window, through a targeted link. How is this third option different from a pop-up? Your one and two are JavaScript and same window; I am struggling to understand the difference here. I would like an acceptable way to show information which does not get the 'pop-up'

[wdvltalk] Re: Pop ups situations

2003-10-27 Thread Dominique Clawson
Well, Joe: I think that popups are windows that open without user's input. What I'm doing is have the user click on the link because it is information that they want to access. So to me the difference is one is forced on you (travel there, buy this, take the survey, etc.) and the other is a

[wdvltalk] Re: Pop ups situations

2003-10-27 Thread Joseph Harris
Dominique, So the options narrow considerably; I take it frames are now frowned on as being useful to achieve both the original window (in part at least) and changing information. Since I am now finding myself irritated by some of the newer floating devices which cover text if the window in