[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2018-07-10 Thread Ramos
What is the status of this separation of web2py and bootstrap? Regards Em sábado, 18 de junho de 2016 14:27:41 UTC+1, Massimo Di Pierro escreveu: > > This is a big can of worms. CSS was created to decouple style info from > structural info (HTML). Turns out most CSS today dictate both a class

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2016-06-18 Thread Dominic Mayers
Yes Anthony, this was my understanding, but I am glad that you confirm. I appreciate very much the time you spent to explain. And, Yes, it was debunked and there is even a scaffolding version with Bootstrap 3, confirming the point. Still, I also appreciate the response of Massimo, pointing

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2016-06-18 Thread Anthony
On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 8:47:42 AM UTC-4, Dominic Mayers wrote: > > I am just starting to learn web2py and I want to better understand the > issue. Is the issue simply that Bootstrap 3 is not backward compatible > with v2.x and therefore we cannot use Bootstrap3 with the templates in > we

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2016-06-18 Thread Dominic Mayers
Naively, I am happy with an approach where, when we design a controller, we consider the HTML + CSS + javascript together as one component, a template, and we only want to know the interface to this template. We want a clean modular interaction between these templates and the code that gener

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2016-06-18 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
This is a big can of worms. CSS was created to decouple style info from structural info (HTML). Turns out most CSS today dictate both a class naming convention and an HTML structure. You cannot take an arbitrary piece of HTML and apply an arbitrary CSS. Moreover adding class names is often not

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2016-06-18 Thread Dominic Mayers
I am just starting to learn web2py and I want to better understand the issue. Is the issue simply that Bootstrap 3 is not backward compatible with v2.x and therefore we cannot use Bootstrap3 with the templates in web2py that have been created with Bootstrap 2 ? The issue seems to be bigger th

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2016-03-22 Thread Pierre
ok. off subject but important : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outdatedness_of_Human_Beings -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You re

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2016-03-22 Thread Leonel Câmara
No Pierre, just use it, those will eventually be deprecated not erased immediately. Anyway, SQLFORM code will be able to use the new Form almost unchanged so it will be easy to change it later. -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2016-03-22 Thread Pierre
>Also, note that SQLFORM and the existing grid will likely be deprecated by new functionality that is in development. >Anthony Does this mean we should cancel code based on SQLFORM / SQLFORM.grid and wait for the new functionality ? -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2016-03-21 Thread Anthony
> I agree with this post subject about bootstrap killing web2py, i use > web2py in 4 different projects using CSS framewors like materialize, > material design lite and material-ui and its really hard to use things like > SQLFORM.smartgrid because it has the classes hardcoded, maybe this can b

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2016-03-21 Thread Dave S
On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 8:20:59 AM UTC-7, Luis Valladares wrote: > > Hello! > > I agree with this post subject about bootstrap killing web2py, i use > web2py in 4 different projects using CSS framewors like materialize, > material design lite and material-ui and its really hard to use thin

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2016-03-21 Thread Luis Valladares
Hello! I agree with this post subject about bootstrap killing web2py, i use web2py in 4 different projects using CSS framewors like materialize, material design lite and material-ui and its really hard to use things like SQLFORM.smartgrid because it has the classes hardcoded, maybe this can be

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2015-12-08 Thread Florent Chandelier
If this may be of any help to others: https://github.com/florentchandelier/web2py_BootstrapExample. I have put together an app where I've replaced the bootstrap 2 original framework of web2py with a third-party bootstrap 3 template from graygrids. Currently I've done the initial minimal effort

Re: [web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2015-03-09 Thread Johann Spies
Try createing a new app from the admin interface and replace it's bootstrap css-files (in static/css) and js-files (in static/js) with bootstrap3 files and see what you get. Regards Johann On 5 March 2015 at 07:16, Moiz Nagpurwala wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using latest relaease of web2py on my lo

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2015-03-05 Thread Moiz Nagpurwala
Hello, I'm using latest relaease of web2py on my local machine. ( 2.9.12-stable+timestamp.2015.02.15.23.04.25 (Running on Rocket 1.2.6, Python 2.7.9)) Unable to install the w2p file provided for BS 3. Please help. -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - htt

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2015-03-04 Thread Leonel Câmara
You need to name the app too, just giving it the upload file is not enough. -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message beca

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2015-03-04 Thread Niphlod
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 8:59:28 PM UTC+1, Guilherme Rosa wrote: > > I am running the latest version of web2py and for some reason it will not > let me load the w2p file in the admin interface under "upload and instal > packed application". > > Anyone having this same issue? > does it sa

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2015-03-04 Thread Guilherme Rosa
I am running the latest version of web2py and for some reason it will not let me load the w2p file in the admin interface under "upload and instal packed application". Anyone having this same issue? On Monday, 21 July 2014 03:39:56 UTC-5, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > > Here is welcome optimized f

Re: [web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-11-15 Thread Gael Princivalle
Ok thank's a lot. -- Gael Princivalle 2014-11-15 16:46 GMT+01:00 Anthony : > As already mentioned in this thread, you can use web2py with any CSS > framework without modifying any web2py internal code. web2py includes some > built-in formstyles and grid UI styles for Bootstra

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-11-15 Thread Anthony
As already mentioned in this thread, you can use web2py with any CSS framework without modifying any web2py internal code. web2py includes some built-in formstyles and grid UI styles for Bootstrap 2 and Bootstrap 3, but you can create your own formstyles and grid UI styles without any internal

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-11-15 Thread Leonel Câmara
Yes you should update as the way bootstrap3 is supported changed. Custom forms do avoid some problems but they are generally not needed. -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/i

Re: [web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-11-15 Thread Gael Princivalle
If I use SQLFORMs with form.custom do I will avoid Bootstrap problems ? -- Gael Princivalle 2014-11-15 14:12 GMT+01:00 Gael Princivalle : > Thanks Leonel. I'm still using web2py 2.8.2. Do you think I must update to > 2.9.11 version for a better Bootstrap support ? > > ---

Re: [web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-11-15 Thread Gael Princivalle
Thanks Leonel. I'm still using web2py 2.8.2. Do you think I must update to 2.9.11 version for a better Bootstrap support ? -- Gael Princivalle 2014-11-15 13:33 GMT+01:00 Leonel Câmara : > Gael I'm using bootstrap 3 in several projects without any problem. The > support for bo

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-11-15 Thread Leonel Câmara
Gael I'm using bootstrap 3 in several projects without any problem. The support for bootstrap 3 isn't stable (it might change) but it's really good enough already. The only concern with it is for SQLFORMs anyway and they already have the bootstrap3_stacked and bootstrap3_inline formstyles. I wo

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-11-15 Thread Gael Princivalle
Hello all. Do we have some news about the web2py Bootstrap 3 support ? I would like to purchase this template: http://themeforest.net/item/metronic-responsive-admin-dashboard-template/4021469 But like a lot f fantastic templates they support only Bootstrap 3, and I'm scared about problems that c

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-08-01 Thread Dmitry Ermolaev
unable to install ( понедельник, 21 июля 2014 г., 12:39:56 UTC+4 пользователь Massimo Di Pierro написал: > > Here is welcome optimized for bootstrap 3. It still needs to have forms > and grid formstyle be set to formstyle_bootstrap3. > > On Sunday, 20 July 2014 10:31:03 UTC-5, Anthony wrote: >>

Re: [web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-30 Thread Anthony
On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:21:20 PM UTC-4, Ramos wrote: > > meteorjs has a nice feature > > you want bootstrap? > just do > meteor add boostrap > inside your folder app and you are good to go. > As far as I can tell, though, that is a legacy package based on Bootstrap 2. You have to instal

Re: [web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-30 Thread António Ramos
meteorjs has a nice feature you want bootstrap? just do meteor add boostrap inside your folder app and you are good to go. 2014-07-30 18:09 GMT+01:00 Jim S : > I agree with Anthony. What I've done with my apps is to rip apart the > base layout and provide my own. I typically find someth

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-30 Thread Jim S
I agree with Anthony. What I've done with my apps is to rip apart the base layout and provide my own. I typically find something I like in https://wrapbootstrap.com/ and update layout.html to accommodate. -Jim On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:52:35 AM UTC-5, Anthony wrote: > > Thanks for the

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-30 Thread Anthony
> > Thanks for the answer, I was aware of that completely. It is just that > Massimo said that it is trivial to replace BS2 with BS3 yet when I try to > do it the trivial way and then create a FORM in controller (whether it be > simple form, sqlform or sqlform.factory) the form looks completely

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-30 Thread Anthony
On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:05:13 AM UTC-4, Gael Princivalle wrote: > > Hi Anthony. > > I think that web2py grids are really powerful and useful. If web2py grids > are not fully compatible with BS3 for me it's a problem. As websites must > be generally designed now first for mobile devices, I t

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-30 Thread Dragan Matic
Anthony, Thanks for the answer, I was aware of that completely. It is just that Massimo said that it is trivial to replace BS2 with BS3 yet when I try to do it the trivial way and then create a FORM in controller (whether it be simple form, sqlform or sqlform.factory) the form looks completely

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-30 Thread Gael Princivalle
Hi Anthony. I think that web2py grids are really powerful and useful. If web2py grids are not fully compatible with BS3 for me it's a problem. As websites must be generally designed now first for mobile devices, I think that web2py front end as to be done with BS3, and responsive. Il giorno me

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-29 Thread Anthony
On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:16:13 PM UTC-4, Dragan Matic wrote: > > Is there some tutorial how to do it for those of us not so versed in CSS? > If you just replace bootstrap.min.css in static/css the menus and forms do > not work the way they used to in BS2. > Note, in general, you should not e

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-29 Thread Dragan Matic
Is there some tutorial how to do it for those of us not so versed in CSS? If you just replace bootstrap.min.css in static/css the menus and forms do not work the way they used to in BS2. On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:36:06 PM UTC+2, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > > web2py includes bs2 but this is cli

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-29 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
web2py includes bs2 but this is client side and it is trivial to replace it with bs3. I do it all the times. The problem is that it takes some JS to style the grid. Massimo On Tuesday, 29 July 2014 06:36:27 UTC-5, Stodge wrote: > > My guess is that web2py includes BS2. > > On Saturday, 26 July

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-29 Thread Leonel Câmara
Stodge, web2py doesn't include BS2, the welcome application does. -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you ar

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-29 Thread Stodge
My guess is that web2py includes BS2. On Saturday, 26 July 2014 18:41:24 UTC-4, sasogeek wrote: > > So... I'm not really sure what this whole conversation is about, as to > whether it's an issue of web2py coming with bs2 by default or some > difficulty in implementing bs3. I use bs3 just fine in

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-28 Thread Anthony
On Sunday, July 27, 2014 7:31:16 PM UTC-4, Moustafa Mahmoud wrote: > > That would be really Great, Also It will be a great Idea to have Web2py > Power decoupled from any Front End Framework, even as a separate project . > Can you explain more what you are looking for? web2py is not coupled to any

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-27 Thread Moustafa Mahmoud
That would be really Great, Also It will be a great Idea to have Web2py Power decoupled from any Front End Framework, even as a separate project . On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:53:17 AM UTC+2, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > > we should have a new web2py version by mid August, including bs3. > > On We

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-27 Thread lyn2py
+1 On Sunday, July 27, 2014 6:41:24 AM UTC+8, sasogeek wrote: > > So... I'm not really sure what this whole conversation is about, as to > whether it's an issue of web2py coming with bs2 by default or some > difficulty in implementing bs3. I use bs3 just fine in my web2py apps and > really have

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-26 Thread 'sasogeek' via web2py-users
So... I'm not really sure what this whole conversation is about, as to whether it's an issue of web2py coming with bs2 by default or some difficulty in implementing bs3. I use bs3 just fine in my web2py apps and really haven't had any issues.. On Friday, 18 July 2014 19:17:34 UTC, Moustafa Mahm

Re: [web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-23 Thread Vinicius Assef
+1 On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Anthony wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm still not sure how Bootstrap 2 is > "killing" web2py. I think the only thing that defaults to Bootstrap 2 > styling is the grid, but it now also includes Bootstrap 3 classes. However, > it also includes a j

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-23 Thread Anthony
Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm still not sure how Bootstrap 2 is "killing" web2py. I think the only thing that defaults to Bootstrap 2 styling is the grid, but it now also includes Bootstrap 3 classes. However, it also includes a jQuery-UI theme and can be customized for other CSS framewo

Re: [web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-23 Thread Vinicius Assef
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:53 AM, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > we should have a new web2py version by mid August, including bs3. Adding BS3 or replacing BS2 with BS3? -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https:

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-23 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
we should have a new web2py version by mid August, including bs3. On Wednesday, 23 July 2014 01:57:59 UTC-5, Gael Princivalle wrote: > > Hello Moustafa. > > I agree with you and hope that we'll have soon a fully Bootstrap 3 web2py > version. > > Il giorno venerdì 18 luglio 2014 21:17:34 UTC+2, Mo

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-22 Thread Gael Princivalle
Hello Moustafa. I agree with you and hope that we'll have soon a fully Bootstrap 3 web2py version. Il giorno venerdì 18 luglio 2014 21:17:34 UTC+2, Moustafa Mahmoud ha scritto: > > I have been using web2py for 3 years know, and I was really impressed by > it, I defended it in every discussion,

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-20 Thread Anthony
Can you give examples of things that work only with Bootstrap 2? On Friday, July 18, 2014 3:17:34 PM UTC-4, Moustafa Mahmoud wrote: > > I have been using web2py for 3 years know, and I was really impressed by > it, I defended it in every discussion, even implemented all my projects > using it an

[web2py] Re: Bootstrap is really killing web2py

2014-07-20 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
I agree. this is a priority. Mind that since git revision ae0749d6b8b9d0bf111c395674f629f3a1e48cfc we had boostrap 3 support. We reverted it because people were not happy with the implementation. The issue here is should support only bs2 and bs3 in grid or should we support arbitrary css via