I like your number 4, with a tweak:
"*CODE LESS, ACCOMPLISH MOR*E"
I does not. It is one of my favorites.
On Mar 21, 5:46 pm, AdamF wrote:
> > web2py : A small framework that allow you to think Big ;-)
>
> > Richard
>
> Web2py: solid as rock, easy as pie ;)
>
> I am not a native speaker so sorry if it sounds stupid ;)
>
> Regards
> Adam
Productive by design is good
here goes some of my thoughts,
1. coding at thought's speed.
2. secure doesn't mean it's slow
3. fun back at web development
4. code less express more
5. framework for people who does things to do
Thank you Adam, I agree.
*apologies for the late follow up*
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 06:23:37AM -0700, AdamF spake:
> Hi,
>
> I've read all the discussion about the tagline... and unfortunately I cannot
> agree with most of the votes. But maybe it's because I am coming from
> enterprise world a
Yeah... Small framework big thought. Or something similar.
On 22 Mar 2011 00:21, "Richard Vézina" wrote:
> web2py : A small framework that allow you to think Big ;-)
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:46 PM, pbreit wrote:
>
>> In the non-enterprise world, it's the exact opposite. "Ente
I would say it's not too different from Django and Rails. If you are
contemplating building any type of database-driven web site/service, Web2py
is definitely worth your consideration, especially if you are interested in
ease-of-use.
>> And thats the question that I am not able to answer: what is the real target
>> for Web2py?
There's only one person who initally decided the direction and the
essence of Massimo's vision is expressed in the preface to the book
and it's nice to be familiar with that.
I believe therefore web2py
>
> web2py : A small framework that allow you to think Big ;-)
>
> Richard
>
>
Web2py: solid as rock, easy as pie ;)
I am not a native speaker so sorry if it sounds stupid ;)
Regards
Adam
>
> Hi,
> >That may be true -- for you. Web2py should target the market sector
> >that it wants and try to appeal to that sector.
>
> And thats the question that I am not able to answer: what is the real
target for Web2py ?
I believe it deserves separate discussion. And I think it's much
web2py : A small framework that allow you to think Big ;-)
Richard
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:46 PM, pbreit wrote:
> In the non-enterprise world, it's the exact opposite. "Enterprise" implies
> expensive, unpleasant, old, hard to acquire/install/use, bloated, Java/.net,
> etc. I'd be surprised
In the non-enterprise world, it's the exact opposite. "Enterprise" implies
expensive, unpleasant, old, hard to acquire/install/use, bloated, Java/.net,
etc. I'd be surprised if many enterprises are even considering Django.
Hi Adam,
That may be true -- for you. Web2py should target the market sector
that it wants and try to appeal to that sector.
Should web2py target an enterprise developer who has already chosen
his software strategy and often has huge investments in existing
vertical market systems and sometimes
And what about :
Web2py : The framework that solves the business needs
Richard
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Massimo Di Pierro <
massimo.dipie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is what I always assumed.
>
> On Mar 21, 8:23 am, AdamF wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've read all the discussion about the ta
That is what I always assumed.
On Mar 21, 8:23 am, AdamF wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've read all the discussion about the tagline... and unfortunately I cannot
> agree with most of the votes. But maybe it's because I am coming from
> enterprise world and I have a different perspective...
>
> For me if you
Hi,
I've read all the discussion about the tagline... and unfortunately I cannot
agree with most of the votes. But maybe it's because I am coming from
enterprise world and I have a different perspective...
For me if you put enterprise in the tagline that means only a few things;
it's a mature,
I notice that "enterprise" still appears in http://twitpic.com/4awuyv
Will it be removed? I am removing it from portuguese translation.
Some time ago I built a web application in which we left room for
users to enter a tagline, since most users struggled to come up with a
tagline, we provided them with the following description:
A tagline is a slogan in which you state what your company/product/
service does or is and in what in d
Is "rapid development that scales" still on the table?
I think the essence of web2py can be summarized in one word:
Pragmatic.
Many design decisions and advantages of web2py can be traced to this
word. Web2py ignores typical design patterns of python frameworks to
come up with something quite unique. This word justifies the
existence of web2py in th
>> does it excite me or tempt me to try it.
+1 Joe
I really think the tagline should lead people into the idea of trying
the framework. For instance, to use Joe's example, 'A complete
framework and webserver on a stick', might intrigue me enough to try
it.
As marketeers we were always taught '
Mike --
I think if we are creating a tagline to differentiate web2py vs.
django, we've already lost sight of the bigger war.
As I said in my (deliberately provocative) statement, every web
framework ever created could claim "productivity" by the inherent
"design" of the framework. There's nothin
I like this bue we do not need "and". We could just go for "Easy,
Powerful, Secure"
On Mar 17, 8:50 am, LightOfMooN wrote:
> for me web2py is
> "Easy and Power" :)
It's nice to see people are getting my point of the tag-line. To me it's
simple to the point and brings all goals of the product together in a
few words.
So many things, to many to tag line, are made for our productivity. It
scratches more itches in web development than others.
BR,
Jason
On 03
for me web2py is
"Easy and Power" :)
> IMNSHO, "Productivity by Design" sucks.
>
> It is vague, wishy-washy, and banal. It could be said of every web
> development tool from Apache to Zope. It fails to capture any of
> web2py's essential advantages.
I disagree. I think it speaks to the very thing that sets web2py
apart from every
I think the most important point is to get developers to try it. What
could achieve that? Grab their attention and inspire them to install
it. Why not 'sell' it like any other product using a tried and tested
formula. The byline leads into the marketing to make a compelling
case for any develop
The easier
friendlier
always backward compatible
framework
that makes
secure pro web development
a joy.
(too many good things to say, so little space).
Here's my tounge in cheek proposal:
Web2py: puts the fun back in coding -- and extra time for playing with
taglines ...
On Mar 15, 7:04 pm, villas wrote:
> The web2py tagline is currently: 'Enterprise Web Framework'.
>
> Massimo agrees that this might be improved and this thread is to
> solicit
OK, that makes sense. :)
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:56:17 PM UTC-4, encompass wrote:
> I wanted it to mean as much as possible. It was intended to mean you can be
> productive and it was thought out with experienced hands when created.
> On 15 Mar 2011 22:13, "Anthony" wrote:
> >
> > I like
I wanted it to mean as much as possible. It was intended to mean you can be
productive and it was thought out with experienced hands when created.
On 15 Mar 2011 22:13, "Anthony" wrote:
>
> I like "Productivity by Design" because it sounds catchy and includes the
word "Productivity", but I'm sort
'Elegance through simplicity'
On Mar 16, 4:12 am, mikech wrote:
> I like the idea of rotating taglines.
>
> Instant gratification comes to mind.
Note, it also appears as the in the HTML and vertically on
the side of the page in the online book: http://www.web2py.com/book/.
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:03:14 PM UTC-4, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
> I agree. I will remove it with the next commit.
>
> On Mar 15, 9:50 pm, Anthony wrote:
>
I agree. I will remove it with the next commit.
On Mar 15, 9:50 pm, Anthony wrote:
> I suppose we don't need a tagline at all. I think it only appears near the
> top of the home page and on the book cover, so it's not exactly ubiquitous.
> Not all frameworks have a tagline. We could just stick wi
I suppose we don't need a tagline at all. I think it only appears near the
top of the home page and on the book cover, so it's not exactly ubiquitous.
Not all frameworks have a tagline. We could just stick with a descriptive
summary sentence on the home page, which is currently:
"Free open sour
We were in the same issue to choose the new logo. Had a votation and from a
list with 94 logos we ended with the most simple and compact.
Today, I think everyone agrees that the logo is good enought.
I really think we need to drop "enterprise" so what about just dropping it?
As simple enought
If it's all too boring, we could spice things up! :)
web2py: making web development sexy since 2007.
- Try to avoid vagueness or bad marketing terms. Be factual.
- Would not try to use more than three properties. (secure, scalabale,
fast, easy to learn, productive, great community etc.) Pick the three that
are most important.
- Let's not forget the obvious, explain t
Here's mine, just for fun.
Web2py
{{=response.subtitle}}
Its an original tagline :P
I think "python all the way down" invites controversy since the main
criticism of web2py is that it is not pythonic.
Web2py: The python framework for speed, security and scalability.
On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>
> how about "designed for productivity"?
Productivity. Security. Community.
>
> On Mar 15, 2:49 pm, mwolfe02 wrote:
>> +1 Productivity by design
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2:13 pm, danto wrote:
>>
>>> 2011/3/15 mart
>>
Just throwing in my
how about "designed for productivity"?
On Mar 15, 2:49 pm, mwolfe02 wrote:
> +1 Productivity by design
>
> On Mar 15, 2:13 pm, danto wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > 2011/3/15 mart
>
> > > Just throwing in my 2 cents worth,
>
> > > Personally, I kind of like the that it says Enterprise, but as
> > > me
+1
On Mar 15, 2:43 pm, Bruno Rocha wrote:
> web2py - Code Less Create More!
> --
> Bruno Rocha
> [ About me:http://zerp.ly/rochacbruno]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, villas wrote:
> > The web2py tagline is currently: 'Enterprise Web Framework'.
>
> > Massimo agrees that this m
IMNSHO, "Productivity by Design" sucks.
It is vague, wishy-washy, and banal. It could be said of every web
development tool from Apache to Zope. It fails to capture any of
web2py's essential advantages.
Massimo's offer of "rapid web development that scales" is closer to
the mark because it at l
I like "Productivity by Design" because it sounds catchy and includes the
word "Productivity", but I'm sort of wondering what we mean with "by
design". Does that imply we didn't accidentally create a productive
framework but have done so with forethought "by design"? Or perhaps that
web2py achi
I like the idea of rotating taglines.
Instant gratification comes to mind.
I don't know how to fit it in elegantly, but wanted to offer the idea
of relating Python's "batteries included" mantra to web2py. That's one
thing that struck me about web2py early on - it gives you a lot of
nice features right off the bat.
Kevin
On Mar 15, 3:49 pm, mwolfe02 wrote:
> +1 Product
+1 Productivity by design
On Mar 15, 2:13 pm, danto wrote:
> 2011/3/15 mart
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Just throwing in my 2 cents worth,
>
> > Personally, I kind of like the that it says Enterprise, but as
> > mentioned here, depends on who's reading it. This is my first try in
> > world if open sou
2011/3/15 mart
> Just throwing in my 2 cents worth,
>
> Personally, I kind of like the that it says Enterprise, but as
> mentioned here, depends on who's reading it. This is my first try in
> world if open source so the experience may speak to me differently
> than let's say the younger crowed wh
I do not think the tagline should be a question.
On Mar 15, 1:44 pm, mart wrote:
> Just throwing in my 2 cents worth,
>
> Personally, I kind of like the that it says Enterprise, but as
> mentioned here, depends on who's reading it. This is my first try in
> world if open source so the experience
Just throwing in my 2 cents worth,
Personally, I kind of like the that it says Enterprise, but as
mentioned here, depends on who's reading it. This is my first try in
world if open source so the experience may speak to me differently
than let's say the younger crowed who may be growing up with it.
LOL
On Mar 15, 11:31 am, VP wrote:
> Web2py: The Web Framework for Pragmatists with Deadlines.
>
> (Don't ask how I came up with that. :-))
+1
2011/3/15 Bruno Rocha
> web2py
> Productivity by design
> web2py is an open-source full stack web framework for rapid development
> that scales
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:45 PM, pbreit wrote:
>
>> I like both "Productivity by design" and "Rapid development that scales".
>>
>> Also not
web2py
Productivity by design
web2py is an open-source full stack web framework for rapid development that
scales
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:45 PM, pbreit wrote:
> I like both "Productivity by design" and "Rapid development that scales".
>
> Also note that Django and Rails, at least, also have a
I like both "Productivity by design" and "Rapid development that scales".
Also note that Django and Rails, at least, also have a short description.
Django
The Web framework for perfectionists with deadlines
Django makes it easier to build better Web apps more quickly and with less
code.
Rails
W
I haven't come up with any great tagline ideas of my own yet, but as we
generate ideas, it might be useful to first think about some of the
distinctive attributes and goals of web2py and its community. Here are some
things I think about when I think of web2py:
- Easy (to set up, learn, use
Web2py: The Web Framework for Pragmatists with Deadlines.
(Don't ask how I came up with that. :-))
changing my +1 - now liking "Productivity by design"!
On 15 March 2011 15:39, Bruno Rocha wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>
>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:12 AM, Kevin Ivarsen wrote:
>> >
>> > So far I like "Productivity by design".
>>
>> I do too. It speaks to web2p
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
> On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:12 AM, Kevin Ivarsen wrote:
> >
> > So far I like "Productivity by design".
>
> I do too. It speaks to web2py's strongest point.
>
> I'm not happy with 'enterprise' because to me it reeks of Enterprise Java
> ("Java
On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:12 AM, Kevin Ivarsen wrote:
>
> So far I like "Productivity by design".
I do too. It speaks to web2py's strongest point.
I'm not happy with 'enterprise' because to me it reeks of Enterprise Java
("Java is the new COBOL").
I'd be happier with 'scales' if we had deployed, l
So far I like "Productivity by design".
Although it depends on what the goals of a tagline should be. If you
want to make the framework discoverable through search engines, it
might be more important to include words like python / mvc / web
framework. The web2py name by itself has the strength of
How about?
"rapid web development that scales"
I think we should use "rapid development" vs "agile" since the latter
sometimes has a negative connotation.
Massimo
On Mar 15, 9:36 am, Tom Atkins wrote:
> On 15 March 2011 13:43, Bruno Rocha wrote:
>
> > web2py - Code Less Create More!
>
> +1
I will think a new one. Some words or ideas perhaps to include: "python",
"MVC", "Full-stack", "Framework", "True MVC", "RAD", "Fast development",
"Less development more creation", "Easy to learn".
2011/3/15 Mengu
> what about generating such taglines and displaying them randomly?
>
> On Mar 15,
what about generating such taglines and displaying them randomly?
On Mar 15, 2:54 pm, "Jason (spot) Brower" wrote:
> Hmm..
> "Twice as fast to code in than Django and four time easier."
> Ok ok, it sucks, but it's true!
> Let me think... how about:
> Productivity by design.
> Think about the page
instead of "the framework that gets things done" i suggest "get your
app done"
On Mar 15, 1:04 pm, villas wrote:
> The web2py tagline is currently: 'Enterprise Web Framework'.
>
> Massimo agrees that this might be improved and this thread is to
> solicit suggestions. Ideally suggestions would en
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