Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-06-19 Thread eric cuver
can you explain how used web2py with ractive.js please Le vendredi 16 mai 2014 18:09:04 UTC+2, Massimo Di Pierro a écrit : No but I do not like angular. It constrains the JS programming too much for my taste. I use ractive.js with bootstrap already without problems. On Wednesday, 14 May

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-20 Thread Cynthia Butler
It was so wonderful to have all the videos posted the day after the conference! I was so grateful for that, I felt like I was right there -- I watched every talk and learned so much. I too had a few skipping back to the first problems, then I changed computers and connections (wired) and

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-20 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
Thank you for letting us know. :-) On Tuesday, 20 May 2014 09:10:28 UTC-5, Cynthia Butler wrote: It was so wonderful to have all the videos posted the day after the conference! I was so grateful for that, I felt like I was right there -- I watched every talk and learned so much. I too

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-19 Thread Ricardo Cárdenas
Kudos to everyone involved in the web2py conference! I'm having trouble watching the videos - maybe it's my connection, but often the video stops and the pointer resets to the beginning of the video. I'm having to refresh the browser and start over. I don't know if others are having these

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-19 Thread joseph simpson
Yes, I had these types of problems also... An offline solution would be great. Have fun, Joe On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Ricardo Cárdenas ricardo.carde...@gmail.com wrote: Kudos to everyone involved in the web2py conference! I'm having trouble watching the videos - maybe it's my

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-18 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
I think there are many pros and cons of both approaches: Pros of client programming: - distribute computation (less server load) - only data is tranferred, not html (less bandwidth usage) - most responsive applications - more flexibility building non-standard interfaces Cons of client

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-18 Thread Osswalt
Massimo, should we expect a new web2py version with underscore.js + reactive.js integrated within ? I'm an old dog and fell in love with web2py but I'm totally confused with all the HTML + CSS + JS mess. I'd like to be directed to some easier and nicer way to build really cool, interactive

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-17 Thread weheh
Massimo, thanks for the pointer to ractive.js and comments about Angular.js. I still don't see much more I need that isn't provided by web2py components and some simple js scripts or jQuery routines. Angular somehow didn't pass my sniff test. Seemed like it was going to get out of hand too

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-17 Thread Anthony
In general, when looking at angular.js and ractive.js doc, it seems like there's a push to move more functionality to the client side. This seems counterproductive for a couple of reasons. The clients are far less capable than the server ... think cell phone ARM processor with a few MB

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-17 Thread weheh
I like the idea of serving only small JSON snips to the client. Yah, I'm beginning to see how it could work better/faster. -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-17 Thread António Ramos
Also client side code enables apps to cache when offline. See pouchdb for example Em 17/05/2014 16:54, weheh richard_gor...@verizon.net escreveu: I like the idea of serving only small JSON snips to the client. Yah, I'm beginning to see how it could work better/faster. -- Resources: -

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-17 Thread Carlos Zenteno
I played with a couple of the ractive.js tutorials and it looks nice to speed up DOM manipulation specially in phones. Also found Cordova which seems awesome to access all the phone features. Can anybody tell me a little about underscore.js? Seems like a copy of jQuery or Prototype but

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-17 Thread Anthony
Note, there's also a potentially suprerior alternative to Underscore.js called Lo-Dash http://lodash.com/, which can be used as a drop-in replacement (though has additional features as well). Anthony On Saturday, May 17, 2014 5:22:06 PM UTC-4, Carlos Zenteno wrote: I played with a couple of

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-16 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
No but I do not like angular. It constrains the JS programming too much for my taste. I use ractive.js with bootstrap already without problems. On Wednesday, 14 May 2014 03:37:59 UTC-5, Ramos wrote: Massimo, have you tried Angular-ui? http://angular-ui.github.io/bootstrap/ 2014-05-14

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-15 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
Yes. Ractive.js. I like it a lot. I had developed an application in Angular.js and then moved it to underscore.js+Ravtice.js and It became faster, leaner and more readable code. Of course it could have been me misusing angular. here is a problem for example... Angular forces to organize code

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-15 Thread Brian M
Massimo, any chance of you posting a tutorial/how to of your setup? :) -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-14 Thread António Ramos
Massimo, have you tried Angular-ui? http://angular-ui.github.io/bootstrap/ 2014-05-14 5:40 GMT+01:00 Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com: I have been using angular.js a lot but I find the controller pattern to be too constraining. for example I cannot use promises outside the scope

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-14 Thread Anthony
Is this the reactive.js you are using: https://github.com/component/reactive? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:20:25 AM UTC-4, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: I am looking at jQuery.js + underscore.js + reactive.js and I find everything I ever looked for. Seems much more flexible than Angular.js and

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-14 Thread António Ramos
or this ? http://www.ractivejs.org/ 2014-05-14 12:28 GMT+01:00 Anthony abasta...@gmail.com: Is this the reactive.js you are using: https://github.com/component/reactive? On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:20:25 AM UTC-4, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: I am looking at jQuery.js + underscore.js +

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-13 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
I have been using angular.js a lot but I find the controller pattern to be too constraining. for example I cannot use promises outside the scope of a controller. I also find that while easy for simple example is get easily out of hands and I find myself having to revert to jQuery for lots of

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-13 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
I am looking at jQuery.js + underscore.js + reactive.js and I find everything I ever looked for. Seems much more flexible than Angular.js and I cannot see what I would be missing. What would I be missing? I just wish they shared the same namespace instead of $, _, Reactive. On Tuesday, 13

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-12 Thread António Ramos
Amber was only focused in showing how easy it is to create a better experience for the user using Angular than simple javascript. Also a lot less code for us, developers. It was just a simple demo. Of course that if the app was real and to be used by many, she could/should worry about keeping

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-12 Thread weheh
@Ramos: of course, I understand that Amber's script was necessarily limited, but it did highlight an important gotcha with this kind of scripting when used with web2py. And if all I wanted to do was hide a table entry on click, I wouldn't want to pay the penalty of loading AngularJS to do

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-12 Thread António Ramos
I was not talking about hiding on click. I was thinking about filtering with a live search box above the table. Angular Filters and directives are awesome and once you know them you cant stop thinking about them. I´m here to learn so feel free to pun me... :P 2014-05-12 16:25 GMT+01:00 weheh

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-12 Thread weheh
Filtering and sorting can definitely save on http calls. Is there anything else you can think of where it's applicable without creating a synch issue in highly collaborative apps? On Monday, May 12, 2014 11:37:07 PM UTC+8, Ramos wrote: I was not talking about hiding on click. I was thinking

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-12 Thread António Ramos
I´m just in favor of angular to improve and modernize user experience. In this matter router-ui seems very interesting also. Also ng animate for animations. I dont understand how you relate directly data out of sync with angular and not with web2py. If new data on server, just publish it to the

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-12 Thread Michele Comitini
How is angular.js compared to ractive.js inside web2py's ecosystem? What is your opinion? 2014-05-12 18:25 GMT+02:00 António Ramos ramstei...@gmail.com: I´m just in favor of angular to improve and modernize user experience. In this matter router-ui seems very interesting also. Also ng animate

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-11 Thread weheh
+1 regarding the AngulaJS talk with web2py by Amber Doctor. Kudos to Amber for a talk well given! I've been studying AngularJS a little and haven't written any code, yet, but my web Spidey sense is giving off alarms. I think Amber's talk underscores a potential danger of client-side MVC.

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-08 Thread António Ramos
The angular talk was very informative. +1 to Angular and web2py 2014-05-06 4:09 GMT+01:00 Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com: I do not think so. On Monday, 5 May 2014 10:38:17 UTC-5, marco mansilla wrote: Is there any chance to download this videos to watch offline?, that

[web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-05 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
Please find below the links to the video of the first web2py conference. Videos are not broken into talks. There is no audio for the first 2minutes but no talk either, only service announcements. *Part #1 (from start to lunch break)*

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-05 Thread Marco Mansilla
Is there any chance to download this videos to watch offline?, that would be awesome. Marco. Please find below the links to the video of the first web2py conference. Videos are not broken into talks. There is no audio for the first 2minutes but no talk either, only service announcements.

Re: [web2py] web2py conference - online talks

2014-05-05 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
I do not think so. On Monday, 5 May 2014 10:38:17 UTC-5, marco mansilla wrote: Is there any chance to download this videos to watch offline?, that would be awesome. Marco. Please find below the links to the video of the first web2py conference. Videos are not broken into talks.