Re: Enterprise Object Caching

2006-08-24 Thread Guido Neitzer
On 25.08.2006, at 1:15 Uhr, Marcos Trejo Munguia wrote: I have a doubt related to object caching, suppose you have the next relationship A<->>B, if you fetch objects of A, then objects of B, it isn't supposed that when you access objects of B through objects of A this objects of B are alrea

Re: Xcode 2.4 Deprecation Announcements

2006-08-24 Thread Clive Roberts
thank you for this, I think it is a solid endorsement of the future for WebObjects.    Clive Roberts     - Original Message - From: Daryl Lee To: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com ; webobjects-announce@lists.apple.com Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:37 PM Subj

Re: Xcode 2.4 Deprecation Announcements [correction]

2006-08-24 Thread Marc Oesch
- What is the best way to send *general* feedback to Apple about WebObjects ? Is it still webobjects.apple.com ? Uups, before anyone starts looking for this webpage :) It should say "[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?" of course. Marc ___ Do not post admin requests

Re: Xcode 2.4 Deprecation Announcements

2006-08-24 Thread Marc Oesch
Hello, We will work to assist the community where technical assistance or specifications are needed and have already been working with several open source projects. This will become public soon. WOCOM... I updated the page with the statement from Apple: http://www.objectstyle.org/confluence

Re: Xcode 2.4 Deprecation Announcements

2006-08-24 Thread Ricardo Strausz
Hola Darly!On Aug 24, 2006, at 6:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Message: 6 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:37:56 -0700 From: Daryl Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Xcode 2.4 Deprecation Announcements To: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com, webobjects-announce@lists.apple.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Java Client and Interface Builder crashes...

2006-08-24 Thread Ian Joyner
Glad to know it's working better. Can't say I've come across elements not drawing, except when the client code crashes - I keep Console open all the time to watch for that. Now back to my repackaging woes. It seems it's not a good idea to clean up your package structure in Java – it's far t

Re: Proper place for functions in KVC paths?

2006-08-24 Thread Lachlan Deck
Hi there, On 22/08/2006, at 2:53 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Aug 21, 2006, at 7:59 AM, John Huss wrote: It seems that key-value coding allows serveral different ways of using functions (like @sum, @avg, etc) in key paths that all seem to work. Like, @sum.array.key.path [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAI

Re: Discussing opinions of Apple Statement

2006-08-24 Thread M. Blanc
On 25 Aug 2006, at 01:25, Marc Oesch wrote: my plan is to donate it after the Apple statement... Important news break: The Apple statement is online. I repeat: The Apple statement is online :) Well, consider it donated then. If the representatives of the current WOLips and Wonder communit

Discussing opinions of Apple Statement

2006-08-24 Thread Marc Oesch
my plan is to donate it after the Apple statement... Important news break: The Apple statement is online. I repeat: The Apple statement is online :) http://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2006/Aug/msg01144.html Since I don't want to clutter this list reserved for WO development with st

Re: Xcode 2.4 Deprecation Announcements

2006-08-24 Thread James Cicenia
Thank you for the press release. Makes me feel great to be a WebObjects developer again.- James CiceniaOn Aug 24, 2006, at 5:37 PM, Daryl Lee wrote:With the release of Xcode 2.4, the "About Xcode Tools.pdf" document contains a deprecation notice that directly affects WebOjects development.  This no

Enterprise Object Caching

2006-08-24 Thread Marcos Trejo Munguia
Hi List, I have a doubt related to object caching, suppose you have the next relationship A<->>B, if you fetch objects of A, then objects of B, it isn't supposed that when you access objects of B through objects of A this objects of B are already cached in memory and there's no need to do a t

Re: A back door to get our Apps back?

2006-08-24 Thread M. Blanc
On 25 Aug 2006, at 00:44, Marc Oesch wrote: > Or how about WonderLand ?? or WonderLust? WonderLand would be really good IMO to describe the entire collection you described. Did you do that with Ruby on Rails ? - No, with Wonderland ! Keep it simple, WonderLips is the obvious winner. Isn

Re: A back door to get our Apps back?

2006-08-24 Thread Marc Oesch
> Or how about WonderLand ?? or WonderLust? WonderLand would be really good IMO to describe the entire collection you described. Did you do that with Ruby on Rails ? - No, with Wonderland ! Keep it simple, WonderLips is the obvious winner. Isn't this too close to WOLips (and they don't wan

RE: Xcode 2.4 Deprecation Announcements

2006-08-24 Thread Daryl Lee
With the release of Xcode 2.4, the "About Xcode Tools.pdf" document contains a deprecation notice that directly affects WebOjects development.  This notice reads:NOTE: As of the release of Xcode 2.4, the Cocoa Java bridge has been deprecated.  This means that, while still supported with Xcode 2.4,

Re: A back door to get our Apps back?

2006-08-24 Thread Simon Mclean
On 24 Aug 2006, at 23:34, James Cicenia wrote: Or how about WonderLand ?? or WonderLust? Keep it simple, WonderLips is the obvious winner. are we coding lipsticks ? :-) ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects

Re: A back door to get our Apps back?

2006-08-24 Thread Chuck Hill
On Aug 24, 2006, at 3:10 PM, M. Blanc wrote: On 24 Aug 2006, at 23:34, James Cicenia wrote: Or how about WonderLand ?? or WonderLust? Keep it simple, WonderLips is the obvious winner. snicker. -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of

Re: A back door to get our Apps back?

2006-08-24 Thread M. Blanc
On 24 Aug 2006, at 23:34, James Cicenia wrote: Or how about WonderLand ?? or WonderLust? Keep it simple, WonderLips is the obvious winner. Cheers --mbj ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list

Re: Java Client and Interface Builder crashes...

2006-08-24 Thread Ray Ackland
Ryan,I find things like that happen if you have something invalid in your app. Examples are key paths that aren't valid, or return a null.rOn 25/08/2006, at 5:51 AM, Ryan Poling wrote:PS: Do you ever have weird screen refresh issues with java client?  Many of our windows open up, draw their widgets

Re: A back door to get our Apps back?

2006-08-24 Thread James Cicenia
Or how about WonderLand ?? or WonderLust? A complete stack with a wizard to step you through the complete installation of Eclipse, Wonder, WebObjects, EModeler, RModeler, Builder and even a version of the the D2W Assistant! I think then we could use the "stack" as the rallying point for ev

Re: A back door to get our Apps back?

2006-08-24 Thread Marc Oesch
Hello, Ruby on Rails just sounds better than WOLips and WOBuilder... Now Project Wonder >sounds great to me.. so I am thinking.. ... hmmm, WonderBuilder... sounds not so bad to me. WonderBuilderI really like this name. I think I read the people at WOLips understandably don't want to cha

Re: Java Client and Interface Builder crashes...

2006-08-24 Thread Ryan Poling
Thanks for the reply - I upgraded to 2.4 and trashed my IB prefs.. It also *seems* to work better when I open the nib from the finder instead of from XCode.. It's working now - weird. PS: Do you ever have weird screen refresh issues with java client? Many of our windows open up, draw thei

build the Ajax.framework as as jar file

2006-08-24 Thread Paolo Sommaruga
Hi,recently I have used the WONDER Ajax.framework in a WO application which work fine in Xcode. I have deployed it on tomcat as a SERVLET_TRUE_WAR and I have the following issue as reported by tomcat log- WOBundle.lookForClassInAllBundles(AjaxProxy) failed!In order to build my application with Xcod

Re: A back door to get our Apps back?

2006-08-24 Thread Simon Mclean
On 24 Aug 2006, at 13:14, James Cicenia wrote:maybe we should lobby Apple for a one time grant of money alternatively maybe we should lobby apple to donate the WOBuilder source code to the community ... ? i read somewhere on the list that an apple rep suggested making WOBuilder work with eclipse is

Re: A back door to get our Apps back?

2006-08-24 Thread Jerry W. Walker
Hi, James, I didn't mean to throw cold water on any good ideas, I just didn't see "My Dream App" as a productive route to reach the goal of an integrated set of WO development tools to replace Apple's offerings. As I mentioned, it might be more productive in its side effects (i.e. PR) if

Re: A back door to get our Apps back?

2006-08-24 Thread James Cicenia
Jerry - You are probably correct. I am an Eclipse user and love it for Java development. Haven't moved up to the latest version. I am waiting for a rev on the new Powerbooks as I rarely buy a rev1 Apple product. I figured that would be a good time to make my transition. However, maybe, w

Re: A back door to get our Apps back?

2006-08-24 Thread Jerry W. Walker
Hi, James, My reading of the page you referenced and the page at http:// mydreamapp.com/ says that we submit ideas to: * a set of judges * the "Killer App Dream Team" * the (already 2000) voters who will collectively decide which idea gets implemented, not by us, but by the "Killer

A back door to get our Apps back?

2006-08-24 Thread James Cicenia
http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20060821/tc_macworld/ mydreamapp20060821_0 Why don't we submit a killer WebObjects development environment application suite? - James Cicenia ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webob