Re: Project Wonder Licensing

2011-05-09 Thread Dov Rosenberg
Let me check with our lawyer. I suspect that the license is still valid though Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2011, at 8:58 PM, "Paul Hoadley" wrote: > On 10/05/2011, at 9:44 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: > >> I assume ERExtensions/Documentation/LICENSE.NPL does... so what about NPL >> has this aud

Re: How to keep the container updated with AjaxUpdateLink?

2011-05-09 Thread Mai Nguyen
Hi Chuck, thanks for the explanation. It is much simpler than I thought. -mai On May 9, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > Hi Mai, > > On May 9, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Mai Nguyen wrote: > >> Hello Ajax gurus, >> >> I am using the AjaxUpdateLink to update a table inside a page instead of >> ref

Re: WOWODC: ERRest topics

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
> > Le 2011-05-09 à 18:37, Daniel Beatty a écrit : > >> Greetings Pascal, >> Both a general and specific set of topics would be nice. Like for example, >> last year's talk you gave proved very useful.Strengths and limitations >> of REST may be a useful topic. What standards do exist fo

Re: Project Wonder Licensing

2011-05-09 Thread Paul Hoadley
On 10/05/2011, at 9:44 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: > I assume ERExtensions/Documentation/LICENSE.NPL does... so what about NPL has > this audit deemed offensive? (I am not a lawyer.) Does a software license like this continue to hold force in the absence of the licensor? That is, given that NetS

Re: Project Wonder Licensing

2011-05-09 Thread Mike Schrag
well .. it's not true, for one. there really is no such thing as "the license for wonder." different parts are under different licenses. I've tried to make the core frameworks clean of any GPL reps, and I think it's a good idea to get rid of all of them if we can. To be on the up-and-up, we real

Re: WOWODC: ERRest topics

2011-05-09 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2011-05-09, at 5:09 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Le 2011-05-09 à 18:43, Chuck Hill a écrit : > On May 9, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Daniel Beatty wrote: >> >>> Greetings Pascal, >>> Both a general and specific set of topics would be nice. Like for >>> example, last year's talk you gave proved very usef

Re: Installing the tools: The One True

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-09 à 20:06, Mr. G Brown a écrit : > I tried it at home and it worked. Worked for me here too (I downloaded the source of Golipse, I added eGit in the plugins list). > At work there was no wolips perspective. Maybe something happened during the > download. > > The Help > Installe

Re: WOWODC: ERRest topics

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-09 à 18:37, Daniel Beatty a écrit : > Greetings Pascal, > Both a general and specific set of topics would be nice. Like for example, > last year's talk you gave proved very useful.Strengths and limitations of > REST may be a useful topic. What standards do exist for REST, and

Re: Project Wonder Licensing

2011-05-09 Thread Ramsey Gurley
I assume ERExtensions/Documentation/LICENSE.NPL does... so what about NPL has this audit deemed offensive? Ramsey On May 9, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Dov Rosenberg wrote: > Those acknowledgements are required if you are using some types of open > source licenses like LGPL. Those do not constitute prop

Re: WOWODC: ERRest topics

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-09 à 18:43, Chuck Hill a écrit : > > On May 9, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Daniel Beatty wrote: > >> Greetings Pascal, >> Both a general and specific set of topics would be nice. Like for example, >> last year's talk you gave proved very useful.Strengths and limitations >> of REST may

Re: Project Wonder Licensing

2011-05-09 Thread Dov Rosenberg
Those acknowledgements are required if you are using some types of open source licenses like LGPL. Those do not constitute proper licensing for project wonder Dov Rosenberg On May 9, 2011, at 6:14 PM, "Ramsey Gurley" wrote: > > On May 9, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Dov Rosenberg wrote: > >> Just havi

Re: WOWODC: ERRest topics

2011-05-09 Thread Chuck Hill
On May 9, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Daniel Beatty wrote: > Greetings Pascal, > Both a general and specific set of topics would be nice. Like for example, > last year's talk you gave proved very useful.Strengths and limitations of > REST may be a useful topic. What standards do exist for REST, a

Re: WOWODC: ERRest topics

2011-05-09 Thread Daniel Beatty
Greetings Pascal, Both a general and specific set of topics would be nice. Like for example, last year's talk you gave proved very useful.Strengths and limitations of REST may be a useful topic. What standards do exist for REST, and how WO can help on this front (given the hordes of IBM

Re: How to keep the container updated with AjaxUpdateLink?

2011-05-09 Thread Chuck Hill
Hi Mai, On May 9, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Mai Nguyen wrote: > Hello Ajax gurus, > > I am using the AjaxUpdateLink to update a table inside a page instead of > refreshing the whole page. > However, the link only refreshes the Ajax Update Container (which wraps the > table) briefly while the user clic

Re: Project Wonder Licensing

2011-05-09 Thread Ramsey Gurley
On May 9, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Dov Rosenberg wrote: > Just having gone thru an extensive software audit of all of the third party > licensing that our company uses (including WebObjects and Project Wonder > among a zillion other things). I would like to propose that Project Wonder > adopt a more

Re: Project Wonder Licensing

2011-05-09 Thread Chuck Hill
On May 9, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Dov Rosenberg wrote: > Just having gone thru an extensive software audit of all of the third party > licensing that our company uses (including WebObjects and Project Wonder > among a zillion other things). No one's idea of a good time. > I would like to propose t

Project Wonder Licensing

2011-05-09 Thread Dov Rosenberg
Just having gone thru an extensive software audit of all of the third party licensing that our company uses (including WebObjects and Project Wonder among a zillion other things). I would like to propose that Project Wonder adopt a more consistent license for the code base. The best licenses for

Re: eogenerator options

2011-05-09 Thread David LeBer
On 2011-05-09, at 5:00 PM, Michael Gargano wrote: > One of these days my questions will make sense... I promise! (i think i'm > getting better) :) > > > On May 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, David LeBer wrote: > >> >> On 2011-05-09, at 4:13 PM, Michael Gargano wrote: >> >>> two quick(and believe it

Re: eogenerator options

2011-05-09 Thread Michael Gargano
One of these days my questions will make sense... I promise! (i think i'm getting better) :) On May 9, 2011, at 4:35 PM, David LeBer wrote: > > On 2011-05-09, at 4:13 PM, Michael Gargano wrote: > >> two quick(and believe it or not, related) questions: >> >> 1) Is there a way to have E

How to keep the container updated with AjaxUpdateLink?

2011-05-09 Thread Mai Nguyen
Hello Ajax gurus, I am using the AjaxUpdateLink to update a table inside a page instead of refreshing the whole page. However, the link only refreshes the Ajax Update Container (which wraps the table) briefly while the user clicks on the link. Can someone point to me how to make sure the contai

Re: eogenerator options

2011-05-09 Thread David LeBer
On 2011-05-09, at 4:13 PM, Michael Gargano wrote: > two quick(and believe it or not, related) questions: > > 1) Is there a way to have EOGenerator not automatically reverse > engineer fields into prototypes? [E.g. if I have a varchar(5) column, to not > have EOGenerator rev. eng. this i

eogenerator options

2011-05-09 Thread Michael Gargano
two quick(and believe it or not, related) questions: 1) Is there a way to have EOGenerator not automatically reverse engineer fields into prototypes? [E.g. if I have a varchar(5) column, to not have EOGenerator rev. eng. this into a boolean prototype] 2) Is the list of properti

Re: Webobjects-dev Digest, Vol 8, Issue 277

2011-05-09 Thread Theodore Petrosky
I do this quite a bit. the AjaxModalDialog has both a onClose and closeUpdateContainerID bindings it sounds to me as if you do not want the WOConditional inside the AUC., but instead use the above bindings. onClose --- server side method that runs before the dialog is closed, the return val

Re: Call to FrontBase users

2011-05-09 Thread Johann Werner
Someone could have a look at the patch? jw Am 05.05.2011 um 08:22 schrieb Johann Werner: > The noCopy constructor (new thing learned) is now in place so keep patching ;) > > Thanks! > > jw > > > Am 05.05.2011 um 03:13 schrieb Mike Schrag: > >> it's ok -- you should probably use either the

Re: https and certification installation

2011-05-09 Thread Jesse Tayler
oh, thanks -- I hadn't seen that page, should help a lot - On May 9, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Most SSL resellers give instructions on how to use openssl to generate the > key and the certificate request. It's almost the same commands as on OS X: > > > http://wiki.objectstyl

WOWODC: ERRest topics

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Hi guys, I have a list of topics for my ERRest presentation at WOWODC, but since according to the survey a lot of you are already using ERRest and a good chunk will start using it, I was wondering if you wanted to see some specific topics. I will not talk about iOS development because I don't d

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-09 à 11:53, Paul D Yu a écrit : > I think the migration to the "one way" is absolutely the right thing to do. > This is the basis from Crossing the Chasm. > > We have to simplify and make things consistent for the general new developers. Installing everything (Eclipse, WOLips, WO,

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Kevin Spake
Kevin > > > >From: Pascal Robert >To: Kevin Spake >Cc: Paul D Yu ; WebObjects Development >Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 11:33:21 AM >Subject: Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way? > > > > >> From: Pascal Robert >> To: Kevin Spake >> Cc: Paul D Yu ; WebObjec

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
> From: Pascal Robert > To: Kevin Spake > Cc: Paul D Yu ; WebObjects Development > > Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 11:01:29 AM > Subject: Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way? > > > Le 2011-05-09 à 12:36, Kevin Spake a écrit : > >> I haven't touched a unix command line in a long time. Luckil

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Kevin Spake
Kevin From: Pascal Robert To: Kevin Spake Cc: Paul D Yu ; WebObjects Development Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 11:01:29 AM Subject: Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way? Le 2011-05-09 à 12:36, Kevin Spake a écrit : > > >I haven't touched a unix command l

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-09 à 12:36, Kevin Spake a écrit : > Simplifying the install process would be a good thing for newbs such as > myself. My install reflects some of the confusion I experienced the past week > or two trying to get things up and running. > > For example: The first example of WO install

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-09 à 11:47, Chuck Hill a écrit : > > On May 9, 2011, at 3:00 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> Everyone should have a copy of Wonder's wotaskd for development. Even if >> someone is using DirectConnect for all development, having a copy of wotaskd >> is useful. > > > Is it? If they

Re: Installing the tools: The One True

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-09 à 13:37, gsbr...@umich.edu a écrit : > I just tried golipse. Did you download it from Github? Looking at the source, it should be ok: https://github.com/rebeld/Golipse/blob/master/English.lproj/go_wolips.sh --> http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/WOLips36Current/lastSu

Re: Re: Installing the tools: The One True

2011-05-09 Thread gsbrown
I just tried golipse. I think it needs to be updated, as the wolips stuff does not come from the hudson builds, and it fails. I think it is important to have things survive in spite of all the changes that happen. The Wolips url: * WOLips plugin URL: * Eclipse 3.6 (Stable): [1]http://w

Re: WO WebServices AxisFault SOLVED

2011-05-09 Thread JR Ruggentaler
See: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/WebObjects/Web_Services/Common_Pitfalls_and_Troubleshooting SAXParseException when using HTTPS If, in WebObjects 5.4.x, you get an exception connecting to your web service via HTTPS (through the WebObjects Apache adaptor) and get an error like the following:

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Kevin Spake
Simplifying the install process would be a good thing for newbs such as myself. My install reflects some of the confusion I experienced the past week or two trying to get things up and running. For example: The first example of WO installation instructions I came across was the one where it d

Re: WO WebServices AxisFault

2011-05-09 Thread JR Ruggentaler
On 2011-05-07, at 8:29 AM, Jon Nolan wrote: > Are you sure you entered a good URL for the WSDL? Nine times out of ten when > I see this error someone is getting it wrong. They either go with /wsdl or > use the direct action request handler key, etc. > > https://host.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/So

Clarification on AjaxObserveField and AjaxUpdateContainer Interaction

2011-05-09 Thread Roger Perryman
Hi, I placed a WOConditional inside an update container so I could use it as a hook to execute some code whenever the container was updated. Specifically, I needed to update some objects after an AjaxModalDialog was closed with the results from AjaxAutoComplete (and other inputs). The ent

Re: https and certification installation

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Most SSL resellers give instructions on how to use openssl to generate the key and the certificate request. It's almost the same commands as on OS X: http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/Development-SSL+requests+via+https+protocol > > anyone have a good documentation resource fo

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Paul D Yu
I think the migration to the "one way" is absolutely the right thing to do. This is the basis from Crossing the Chasm. We have to simplify and make things consistent for the general new developers. Paul On May 9, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > > Le 2011-05-09 à 10:18, John Huss a é

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Chuck Hill
On May 9, 2011, at 3:00 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Everyone should have a copy of Wonder's wotaskd for development. Even if > someone is using DirectConnect for all development, having a copy of wotaskd > is useful. Is it? If they are using DirectConnect, then wotaskd should not come into pl

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Chuck Hill
On May 9, 2011, at 4:50 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: > AFAIK, the Apple dmg is the only one that installs the examples, > documentation (in Developer dir), etc.? Might be useful for beginners. > > I use woinstall.jar myself usually. > > In any case, just pick whichever way you think is best, eas

https and certification installation

2011-05-09 Thread Jesse Tayler
anyone have a good documentation resource for setting up new server certificates with amazon ec2 linux? I haven't done it in a while, and there seem to be several steps I've forgotten. thanks advice or leads! ___ Do not post admin requests to the l

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-09 à 10:18, John Huss a écrit : > Mike floated the idea a while back about integration WO installation into > WOLips. That is the best option in my opinion. Barring that, I still think > the easiest, sure to work method is to: > > 1) Use Apple's WebObjects installer > 2) Download

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Ramsey Gurley
I find those useful too. It would have taken me a lot longer to figure out inheritance without them. I'd still like to spend some time looking at the persistent session store example. I just assumed they were only available with the dev tools disk. Ramsey On May 9, 2011, at 4:50 AM, Kieran Ke

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread John Huss
Mike floated the idea a while back about integration WO installation into WOLips. That is the best option in my opinion. Barring that, I still think the easiest, sure to work method is to: 1) Use Apple's WebObjects installer 2) Download eclipse 3) Install WOLips Most java developers probably al

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2011-05-09 à 07:50, Kieran Kelleher a écrit : > AFAIK, the Apple dmg is the only one that installs the examples, > documentation (in Developer dir), etc.? Might be useful for beginners. I wouldn't call the examples to be useful :-) We should write new examples that use Wonder features. But

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Kieran Kelleher
AFAIK, the Apple dmg is the only one that installs the examples, documentation (in Developer dir), etc.? Might be useful for beginners. I use woinstall.jar myself usually. In any case, just pick whichever way you think is best, easiest for beginners, and works reliably. On May 9, 2011, at 6:00

Re: Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Martin Samm
i agree with the last point whole heartedly. martin On 9 May 2011 11:00, Pascal Robert wrote: > Ok, so we have four pages in the wiki that tells how to configure Apache > for development, and numerous pages on how to install WOLips and the core WO > frameworks. We need one or two pages maximum!

Installing the tools: The One True Way?

2011-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Ok, so we have four pages in the wiki that tells how to configure Apache for development, and numerous pages on how to install WOLips and the core WO frameworks. We need one or two pages maximum! So we need to define what is the The One True Way to install and configure everything for developmen