Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-21 Thread Philippe Rabier via Webobjects-dev
I didn't play. Just reading. Regarding Kitura, IBM ceased to contribute last year - https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/01/ibm-stop-work-swift-server/ Maybe someone else has a better and practical feedback to share on swift server side. Have a good we Philippe Sent from my iPhone

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-21 Thread Tim W via Webobjects-dev
Thanks for all these thoughts Philippe! Have you investigated any of the swift-based web frameworks like Kitura or Vapor? I may poke around with them a bit - but I need to learn swift first. I do like the availability of java libraries and jdbc connectivity. Tim > On Feb 19, 2020, at 4:10 PM,

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-19 Thread Philippe Rabier via Webobjects-dev
We considered using Typescript but we faced weird behaviors so we gave up. Too much stuff to learn at the same time. And it should help developing your code but it doesn't help when you work with external libraries. And I remember Benoit Marchant (MontageJS) saying: "if you want to embrace the

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-19 Thread Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
Typescript tries to give you a more Java feel to JavaScript - maybe you could try that? You can use it via npm and cli or in an ide > On 19 Feb 2020, at 20:12, Philippe Rabier via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > I worked as CTO in a company where Node has been chosen and I didn't

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-19 Thread Philippe Rabier via Webobjects-dev
Hi Tim, I worked as CTO in a company where Node has been chosen and I didn't want to trouble the team and continue w/ the same technology. So I decided to jump in the train and learned JavaScript, node etc. It's not an easy language if you want to get benefit of the dynamic part of the langua

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-18 Thread Tim W via Webobjects-dev
Thanks for this Lon. As I begin contemplating a move from WO -> Cayenne, I’m really appreciating hearing what folks are using from a front-end perspective. Wicket looks like a pretty interesting one and from a familiarity perspective may be the best I’ve seen coming from a WO background. Since

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-14 Thread Matthew Ness via Webobjects-dev
I'll add we still actively develop quite a few WO apps, but to answer your question with Bootique/Cayenne we are using various front end frameworks. React, Angular, React Native and Flutter now for mobile. Cheers, Matt On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Jérémy DE ROYER wrote: > Hi > > And abo

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-14 Thread Lon Varscsak via Webobjects-dev
We also use bootique...for war-less applications. I've kind of built all the stuff like WebObjects (I have a monitor a taskd, etc)...not public domain yet though :/ On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:50 AM Lon Varscsak wrote: > We've settled on Apache Wicket (apps are being re-written from WO) with > A

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-14 Thread Lon Varscsak via Webobjects-dev
We've settled on Apache Wicket (apps are being re-written from WO) with Apache Cayenne (EOF-like but more modern). I love both, I would be sad if I had to use a different toolset. On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:14 AM Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev < webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote: > Hi >

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-13 Thread Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev
Hi And about wo components framework ? What are you using with Bootique ? Jérémy Le 13 févr. 2020 à 23:08, Matthew Ness via Webobjects-dev a écrit :  I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Bootique. We've had various types of Bootique apps in production for years now to great success, some wit

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-13 Thread Tony Giaccone via Webobjects-dev
I can second the vote for bootique. We built two micro-services using bootique and I couldn’t be happier with their performance. One has been running since December of 2018 the other since August of 2019. We built apps that use Bootique with jetty, Jersey and Cayenne. The apps both generate

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-13 Thread Matthew Ness via Webobjects-dev
I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Bootique. We've had various types of Bootique apps in production for years now to great success, some with the Cayenne module directly derived from older WO apps/dbs, some communicating with existing WO apps, others simply processing tasks. Regards, -- Matt h

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-13 Thread gndgn via Webobjects-dev
Made my day, thanks! 🤣 > Am 13.02.2020 um 13:30 schrieb Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev > : > > LOL!! > > > >> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:29, Andrus Adamchik > > wrote: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss >>

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-13 Thread Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
LOL!! > On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:29, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss > > >> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev >> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >> wrote: >>

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-13 Thread Andrus Adamchik via Webobjects-dev
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss > On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > Thank Andrus for you take… really good write up. > > And what is PHBs? > > Gibi > >> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:25, And

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-13 Thread Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
Thank Andrus for you take… really good write up. And what is PHBs? Gibi > On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:25, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > > My opinionated take is the following: > > * The "official" JavaEE is dead and is now a pure volunteer effort under > https://jakarta.ee/ . The

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-13 Thread Andrus Adamchik via Webobjects-dev
My opinionated take is the following: * The "official" JavaEE is dead and is now a pure volunteer effort under https://jakarta.ee/ . The "appserver" concept has almost disappeared and morphed to something different. All the past market leaders have moved on to more lightwe

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-13 Thread Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
Thanks for that… it looks really interesting… Is it a commercially viable alternative to some of the others like JBoss, Tomcat, Websphere etc.. I would like to add another feather to my bow but not really sure which architecture to devote time to so that I can work on bigger projects in a team

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-13 Thread Andrus Adamchik via Webobjects-dev
We are using Bootique: https://bootique.io/ Just like SpringBoot, its idea is that it is not an "appserver". It gives you a plain Java app with your own "main" method, and a way to assemble various components together (and also modularity, dependency injection, consistent

Re: Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-11 Thread Paul Yu via Webobjects-dev
Spring and it’s ecosystem seems to be pretty powerful. Paul Sent from my iPhone Please excuse iOS autocomplete > On Feb 11, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > hey if any one was to use a different app server configuration other than WO > what would you choose an

Complimentary App Server Choice

2020-02-11 Thread Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev
hey if any one was to use a different app server configuration other than WO what would you choose and why? What are most companies requesting these days in a Java system? ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-d