Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-12 Thread Jean Pierre Malrieu
The second is a quick handling of mashups be they constructed by GWT or that French chocolate (Gianduia) that I have trouble pronouncing. I know that everything good and hard to pronouce tends to comes from France, but in that case, it's italian... like the Pizza framework, the Gorgonzola f

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-11 Thread Anjo Krank
Oh, you mean like ERD2WREst? Yeah, now that would be a neat idea :P Cheers, Anjo Am 11.11.2009 um 19:27 schrieb Daniel Beatty: > In my opinion, it would be nice for D2W to have a RESTful option such that > the same rules that apply to the D2W side also apply to the RESTful side, too. __

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-11 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 09-11-11 à 13:27, Daniel Beatty a écrit : Greetings Dave, I think that I am with you. D2W is an opaque beast, and its potential is astounding. The assistant was a great idea that was in need of significant refinement. I am guessing it suffered the fate of many great ideas, dry fund

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-11 Thread Daniel Beatty
Greetings Dave, I think that I am with you. D2W is an opaque beast, and its potential is astounding. The assistant was a great idea that was in need of significant refinement. I am guessing it suffered the fate of many great ideas, dry funding. In my opinion, it would be nice for D2W t

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-10 Thread David LeBer
On 2009-11-10, at 10:02 AM, Anjo Krank wrote: The assistants are an excellent example of how easy it is to hit a stone wall. I remember I re-created my first project 5 times, because I simply couldn't figure how the various things influenced each other. Had I known about the rules up-front

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-10 Thread Anjo Krank
The assistants are an excellent example of how easy it is to hit a stone wall. I remember I re-created my first project 5 times, because I simply couldn't figure how the various things influenced each other. Had I known about the rules up-front, I'd at least would have had a chance to to th

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-10 Thread David Avendasora
On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Johan Henselmans wrote: I have heard the 'Assistant produces horrible rules use RuleModeler' over and over again by very outspoken, well versed into the Direct To Web technology developers that have tweaked the rulegeneration and parsing themselves (Anjo and

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-10 Thread Johan Henselmans
Op 9 nov 2009, om 17:30 heeft Mike Schrag het volgende geschreven: > I still go back to "why d2jc" -- why not just do d2w? you have the point, i > suppose, about the assistant -- if that's a requirement for you, then you're > probably a sad panda with d2w (why doesn't this work, again?that's go

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-09 Thread David Avendasora
On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: I still go back to "why d2jc" -- why not just do d2w? you have the point, i suppose, about the assistant -- if that's a requirement for you, then you're probably a sad panda with d2w (why doesn't this work, again?that's gotta be relatively ea

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-09 Thread Mike Schrag
I still go back to "why d2jc" -- why not just do d2w? you have the point, i suppose, about the assistant -- if that's a requirement for you, then you're probably a sad panda with d2w (why doesn't this work, again?that's gotta be relatively easily fixable, though everyone i've ever heard say

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-09 Thread David Avendasora
I think we are talking about two different uses of D2JC. I'm not really suggesting that it should be used to create an end-user UI in most cases. I'm saying that it is a powerful tool to aid in the development process. On Nov 6, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Sure, I agree yours is

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-07 Thread John Huss
You could argue that it doesn't matter much if a JavaClient looks awful on the Mac since 90% of your user will be running Windows - and probably more for a business application. Also, the Nimbuslook and fee

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-07 Thread Mike Schrag
Is D2* still used by Apple? yes ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/we

Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-07 Thread Johan Henselmans
Op 7 nov 2009, om 06:20 heeft Ashley Aitken het volgende geschreven: > > I'm always blown away by the power of D2*, especially D2JC (even given the > "Java GUI"). I was never too clear on the development process after having > built the CRUD, it seemed less quite mysterious (and not very well