WO Tutorials

2008-05-06 Thread Don Lindsay
Hello; Please visit http://web.mac.com/pccdonl/index.html, I created a short installation tutorial as an example. I think this is the kind of thing we need for beginner users of WOLips/WebObjects. Please give me your feedback. Don ___ Do not pos

Re: WO Tutorials

2008-05-07 Thread Lachlan Deck
Nice Don. ps probably a little overkill with the pop instruction for pressing the space bar :-) But otherwise, very clear. On 07/05/2008, at 2:20 PM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hello; Please visit http://web.mac.com/pccdonl/index.html, I created a short installation tutorial as an example. I th

Re: WO Tutorials

2008-05-07 Thread Florijan Stamenkovic
Don, Nicely done! I'm all up for tutorials that a 3 year old could follow. It doesn't hurt :) Btw., what software did you use for UI -> Flash? It seems a very bandwidth friendly way of screencasting... F On May 07, 2008, at 00:20, Don Lindsay wrote: Hello; Please visit http://web.mac.

Re: WO Tutorials

2008-05-07 Thread Don Lindsay
I am using Captivate, Which exports to Flash. Don On May 7, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Florijan Stamenkovic wrote: Don, Nicely done! I'm all up for tutorials that a 3 year old could follow. It doesn't hurt :) Btw., what software did you use for UI -> Flash? It seems a very bandwidth friendly way

Re: WO Tutorials

2008-05-07 Thread Alexander Spohr
Select WOLips Goodies Win? Hm... Select WOLips Goodies Mac! ;) atze Am 07.05.2008 um 06:20 schrieb Don Lindsay: Hello; Please visit http://web.mac.com/pccdonl/index.html, I created a short installation tutorial as an example. I think this is the kind of thing we need for beginne

Re: WO Tutorials

2008-05-07 Thread Oliver Scheel
I see it's captured under Windows. Suggestion for the next tutorial: How to get WO 5.3 on Windows in three steps (only the stuff that is needed for basic Development, no wotaskd, no monitor) ;-) Oliver Am 07.05.2008 um 06:20 schrieb Don Lindsay: Hello; Please visit http://web.mac.com/pccd

Re: WO Tutorials

2008-05-07 Thread Ray Kiddy
On May 6, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hello; Please visit http://web.mac.com/pccdonl/index.html, I created a short installation tutorial as an example. I think this is the kind of thing we need for beginner users of WOLips/WebObjects. Please give me your feedback. Don Is the

Re: WO Tutorials

2008-05-07 Thread Don Lindsay
Hello; I wanted to create a sample tutorial first to ensure I was on track. I was then gong to create: How to Install WOLips How to Install the runtime on Windows Creating a first WO Application (worldhello) W/O EO Model Static content Creating a first WO Application (worldhello1) W/O EO Mod

Re: WO Tutorials

2008-05-07 Thread Don Lindsay
Wow, if you can provide the steps on how to do it I will create a tutorial. I am still having trouble with my windows machine running apps in eclipse. I do all of my development on a Mac normally, however I could not find a program that was as good as Adobe Captivate that ran on the mac.

Re: WO Tutorials

2008-05-07 Thread Chuck Hill
My one comment would be to avoid the glitzy effects like the swirling text instructions at the start. I found them more annoying than anything. Chuck On May 7, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hello; I wanted to create a sample tutorial first to ensure I was on track. I was then

Re: WO Tutorials

2008-05-07 Thread Pascal Robert
If you are on Leopard, try Screenflow. This is what Mike and David are using. Does Captivate can export to Flash with the MP4 codec ? It would allow us to put your podcasts in the iTunes feeds and on the wocommunity.org site with the other podcasts. Wow, if you can provide the steps on

Re: WO Tutorials

2008-05-07 Thread Jeremy Matthews
Guess I should forget about creating an installer for other platforms, eh? :) --- Wow, if you can provide the steps on how to do it I will create a tutorial. I am still having trouble with my windows machine running apps in eclipse. I do all of my development on a Mac normally, however

Re: WO Tutorials

2008-05-08 Thread Oliver Scheel
And I thought you have solved the probelms ;-) That is the reason why I had to switch WO development to Mac a couple of months ago, too. Though I am a real Mac user since 10 years, I never developed with WO on a Mac (and never really used Project Builder for WO) ;-) Strange, but true. OK,

WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Don Lindsay
Hello; I have completed a draft of a install tutorial for installing WebObjects and WOLips on Windows. Feel free to review the tutorial at http://web.mac.com/pccdonl/index.htm Thanks, Don ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ig

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Cheong Hee (Datasonic)
Hi Followed on url, the page is not available. Any reason? Cheers Cheong Hee Message: 8 Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 03:43:52 -0400 From: Don Lindsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: WO Tutorials install on windows To: Development WebObjects Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Pascal Robert
Missing a 'l' after .htm (.html instead of .htm) Hi Followed on url, the page is not available. Any reason? Cheers Cheong Hee Message: 8 Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 03:43:52 -0400 From: Don Lindsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: WO Tutorials install on windows To: Development Web

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Hi Don, I followed your tutorial only deviating to use the nightly wolips instead of stable. It seems wolips is not picking up the webobjects paths. I put wobuild.properties at: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Library\wobuild.properties and its contents are: #This file stores wo pr

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Mike Schrag
Pretty sure you should not be escaping the colon ... When I setup a Windows install, i did NOT use that syntax. On May 9, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: Hi Don, I followed your tutorial only deviating to use the nightly wolips instead of stable. It seems wolips is not picking

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Don Lindsay
AIL PROTECTED]> Subject: WO Tutorials install on windows To: Development WebObjects Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hello; I have completed a draft of a install tutorial for installing WebObjects and WOLips on Windows

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Syntax fixed. Also replaced all wo frameworks with 5.3.3 from Mac side. If I create a project, I get error as shown. java.lang.NullPointerException at org.eclipse.core.runtime.Path.(Path.java:152) at org .objectstyle .wolips .variables .VariablesPlugin.fixMissingSeparatorAfterDevice(Variab

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Mike Schrag
ah ok .. the variable is "wo.wolocalroot" not "wo.localroot". i actually posted an email a while back with what I did to setup Windows. These are from January, so slightly dated, but should be close: "I can't remember if I posted these or not, but these are the instructions I put togethe

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Mike Schrag
1) The woproject/*.patternset don't work quite right on Windows. You can work around it by converting Components/**/*/etc/** to Components/*, same w/ Resources and WebServerResources 2) Couple images have backgrounds that should not 3) Outline view in component editor is not right 4) AutoOpen

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Kieran Kelleher
And if course I looked at it 10 times and could not see it! ... and the tutorial video was correct too! That was it. Works now. Thanks, Kieran On May 9, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: ah ok .. the variable is "wo.wolocalroot" not "wo.localroot".

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Don Lindsay
When I attempted to do it without the \: for the colon my install did not work. What version of windows, java, and eclipse are you using? Also, I am running 5.4.2 of webobjects. Don On May 9, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Pretty sure you should not be escaping the colon ... When I

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Don Lindsay
Hello Mike; # 1 is not fixed, I ran into it while I was making the tutorial. If you do not modify the resources and wsresources include patternset files your components do not get copied to the resources directory. Don On May 9, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: 1) The woproject/*.pat

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Don Lindsay
These types of things are so easy to miss. :) Don On May 9, 2008, at 1:50 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: And if course I looked at it 10 times and could not see it! ... and the tutorial video was correct too! That was it. Works now. Thanks, Kieran On May 9, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Mike Schrag wrote

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Mike Schrag
Hello Mike; # 1 is not fixed, I ran into it while I was making the tutorial. If you do not modify the resources and wsresources include patternset files your components do not get copied to the resources directory. Are you using stable or nightly of WOLips? ms _

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Don Lindsay
Using stable, I would not recommend to people to use the nightly as there may be other issues they will run into. Don On May 9, 2008, at 2:00 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Hello Mike; # 1 is not fixed, I ran into it while I was making the tutorial. If you do not modify the resources and wsreso

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Don Lindsay
I have uploaded the "final" version of the tutorial. This version contains spelling fixes, and is prettied up a bit. No real steps or content changes were made. http://web.mac.com/pccdonl Don On May 9, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Don Lindsay wrote: Using stable, I would not recommend to people to u

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Mike Schrag
Using stable, I would not recommend to people to use the nightly as there may be other issues they will run into. OK ... I'm pretty sure that problem is fixed in the nightly. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobj

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Q
On 10/05/2008, at 3:57 AM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hello Mike; # 1 is not fixed, I ran into it while I was making the tutorial. If you do not modify the resources and wsresources include patternset files your components do not get copied to the resources directory. Mike is correct, It's

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Don Lindsay
I have no problem changing the tutorial to specify nightly. I believe, we need to be consistent in all of the documentation how- to's and tutorials. If we are not consistent beginning users of WOLips are going to get confused and then ask questions on the list about installation. The best

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Q
Ok, I watched it, and I have some constructive criticism. Most of the annotations are just stating the obvious and are unnecessary, clicks already have audio cue's. You should only need to annotate right clicks, explanations of why you are doing something or keyboard shortcuts. Recommend

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Don Lindsay
Hello Q; > Tutorials should be understandable by the lowest common denominator, from a person who has never used Eclipse to a se

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-09 Thread Don Lindsay
Hello Q; I followed the instructions you provided to install WebObjects on windows, with the latest nightly build. When I create a new project there are no frameworks in the build path. All the environment variables have been set correctly. The WebObjects Update 5.3.3 does not contain

Re: WO Tutorials install on windows

2008-05-10 Thread Q
On 10/05/2008, at 2:45 PM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hello Q; I followed the instructions you provided to install WebObjects on windows, with the latest nightly build. When I create a new project there are no frameworks in the build path. All the environment variables have been set correctly.