Warren Smith wrote:
Unfortunately, I cannot contribute as much as I would like to the Webware
development process, so it is hard for me be too critical of the Webware
developers. I suspect that many of the developers are in a similar
situation (too busy USING the tool to make a living to have time
That's great news.
I've seen this topic of multiple webware servers with a common
sessionstore quite a few times, which is important for
robustness/reliability.
Do you use session affinity (ie. if you started on server n°X you stay
on server n°X for the the whole duration of the session) or is
Huy wrote:
PHP and Rails are strong because the whole community agreed that
choosing a "main" (in not single) framework was more important than
any technical argument/point of view/limitation/whatever.
Is Rails strong ? I've looked at it and have not been that impressed.
I've written a code ge
Huy said:
> always the easiest thing to do anyway. The business logic has always
> been the main challenge in all the applications I've been involved with
> regardless of language or platform.
>
I would agree here. The lion's share of work is always in actually using
the tools. Judicious time spe
PHP and Rails are strong because the whole community agreed
that choosing a "main" (in not single) framework was more important than
any technical argument/point of view/limitation/whatever.
Is Rails strong ? I've looked at it and have not been that impressed.
I've written a code generator for w
Geoffrey Talvola said:
> If your IP sprayer supports "session affinity", where it can be configured
> to examine the cookies and direct all requests for a particular session to
> the same server, then Webware can be used as-is.If you make heavy use
> of
> session variables then this is bound to
Warren Smith wrote:
> There
> would also have to be some changes to Webkit to make it scale across
> multiple machines. Our CGI application currently runs on 13 web
> servers behind an IP sprayer. Moving to a long-running process like
> Webkit would make it much more efficient. However, we would
I just wanted to mention, since it's been brought up, that I have taken
the time integrate Pyro (pyro.sourceforge.net) into Webware for the
purpose of spaning Webware across multiple machines. I have a rough
version already in production use, where I have three inter-linked
applications running un
Olivier FAVRE-SIMON said:
> *** have 2 class hierarchies: one for logic, one for views *** :
This is exactly the approach that I have taken as well. Keeping the
presentation in a separate hierarchy makes the code much cleaner and
completely sidesteps the multiple inheritance issues with Cheetah,
On 02:01 Fri 11 Mar , Olivier FAVRE-SIMON wrote:
>
> And I don't myself pretend to have *today* sufficient knowledge of
> Webware to be at the lead of a major move.
>
> But then I must admit it is a vicious endless circle :
>
> No concrete example or tutorial for beginners, insufficient docs
I'm sorry for the asciigram of my class hierarchy being all messed up in
my previous post.
(Looked fine in Mozilla Thunderbird but I must have used some tabs
between spaces. Everything is scrambled and unreadable.)
Also I may have stated more clearly the goal (which must be obvious
anyway) :
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And I don't myself pretend to have *today* sufficient knowledge of
Webware to be at the lead of a major move.
But then I must admit it is a vicious endless circle :
No concrete example or tutorial for beginners, insufficient docs =>
less people interested in Webware => less docs and tutorial
I absolutely agree with your comments at the bottom about the state of web frameworks with python. It's not clear to me how to organize it to make it happen though, other than to keep stating it until everyone agrees.
Especially, I wish we had more Webware releases. I suppose I could just do it
For what it's worth I'm happy to share my way to use Cheetah with
Webware. Comments are welcome.
Starting with some facts:
1. The only way to have powerfull but well-structured Cheetah templates
is to use inheritance (#extends).
2. The only way to have FormKit (or any other form kit that rely o
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