Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-21 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:25:12 +0600, Matthew Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... Is img ever non-presentational? Radical thought: Deprecate img. Why? Aren't there semantic images? Maybe instead deprecate img for presentational images, leaving it only for semantic images (with

Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-21 Thread Matthew Raymond
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:25:12 +0600, Matthew Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... Is img ever non-presentational? Radical thought: Deprecate img. Why? Aren't there semantic images? Might be. As Anne suggests, a picture of a product might be a good

Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-21 Thread Matthew Raymond
Anne van Kesteren wrote: Quoting Matthew Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hmm... Is img ever non-presentational? Radical thought: Deprecate img. A company logo? You could make an argument that trademarks have semantic value, but it's kinda weak, because you can identify the company by name

Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-21 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:11:29 +0600, Matthew Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe instead deprecate img for presentational images, leaving it only for semantic images (with non-empty alt required). Sounds like a good idea. We should probably also consider how object fits into this,

Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-21 Thread James Graham
Henri Sivonen wrote: On Jan 19, 2006, at 14:05, Anne van Kesteren wrote: Without the alt attribute img becomes meaningless for devices (and people) who can not interpreted images. Good intention, yes, but let's consider the practice: Suppose there is an authoring tool that has a design goal

Re: [whatwg] a href= ping=

2006-01-21 Thread Jim Ley
On 1/19/06, Tyler Close [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/19/06, Jim Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, they'll just disable it, as it does them directly no benefit and has a cost, so if you educate them enough to make a decision, they will not decide to be tracked. Why hasn't this happened to

[whatwg] comment parsing

2006-01-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Given the new parsing rules for comments (all those internal discussions...) I was trying to write some testcases for how they are defined now. # p!-- -- --PASS!--/p However, from the specification it is not entirely clear what should happen with !--/p. Well, perhaps it is, but then I'd like

Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-21 Thread Jonny Axelsson
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:54:34 +0100, James Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henri Sivonen wrote: Alternatively, the tool makers could give up the requirement of human-supplied alt text and just generate an empty alt text by default without asking. (Considering that the tool itself--not just

Re: [whatwg] Definition of alt= attribute

2006-01-21 Thread Simon Pieters
Hi, From: Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've considered making alt= and omitting alt be conformant equivalents. I haven't really thought much about it yet though. Lynx shows the file name if alt= is ommitted. IIRC, HTML 4.0 previously recommended that UA's should use the file name if alt is

[whatwg] [wf2] required attribute and pseudo-classes

2006-01-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
In http://whatwg.org/specs/web-forms/current-work/#relation I think the text on :required and :optional should be clarified so that it is clear that these pseudo-classes only apply to elements to which the required attribute applies. -- Anne van Kesteren http://annevankesteren.nl/