[whatwg] Inline SVG: Embedded vs. Metadata Content Distinction (Was: Fwd: Allow Select SVG Elements In head)

2015-08-28 Thread Hugh Guiney
quoted text.) Again, is this something the SVG WG is willing to do? Thank you, Hugh On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Hugh Guiney hugh.gui...@gmail.com wrote: Cameron McCormack forwarded this proposal to public-svg-wg a year ago (thanks, Cameron!) but no one commented on it, so I'm reposting

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt main

2012-11-15 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: Actually, there's a good point: I would actually add this: if main or an element with @role=main exist on the page, there is no need to run the Scooby-Doo algorithm and that element can just be chosen as the main

Re: [whatwg] A plea to Hixie to adopt main

2012-11-07 Thread Hugh Guiney
As a developer I'm in favor of this. Just take a look at the how popular the question of How do I enable Reader mode is on SO[1], and how complex and mysterious the actual algorithm appears to be[2], and it's evident how authors and implementors alike could benefit from a dedicated element.

Re: [whatwg] Submitting contentEditable Content In A Form

2012-10-22 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I haven't added this, because contenteditable= is only truly useful with scripting enabled, and it's basically one line of script to support shunting the current value into a hidden input. For me, it's also useful even just as

[whatwg] Font Resize Event

2012-09-26 Thread Hugh Guiney
My use case: I have a div with overflow: hidden that contains slides as part of a JavaScript carousel. It has to be overflow: hidden because otherwise the unseen slides are visible/stretch the page. And because each slide is different, the containing div therefore needs to grow/shrink in height

[whatwg] Regarding Examples for rel=tag

2012-09-14 Thread Hugh Guiney
Just saw the following change: http://html5.org/r/7347, and while it's certainly nice to have examples, I don't understand why rel=tag *always* applies to the whole document. I think it makes perfect sense in the first example, but my expectation as an author would be for tags within articles to

Re: [whatwg] Regarding Examples for rel=tag

2012-09-14 Thread Hugh Guiney
Didn't mean to go off-list with this. Posting the prior exchange before I respond: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Hugh Guiney hugh.gui...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Because it was invented before article, so consumers apply

Re: [whatwg] Regarding Examples for rel=tag

2012-09-14 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Also, as I pointed out in the original post, consumers already use rel=tag intending for it to apply only to portions of a page. Consumers or producers? What matters here is not changing _consumer_ behaviour, so that we don't

[whatwg] Submitting contentEditable Content In A Form

2012-09-07 Thread Hugh Guiney
I'm developing a CMS and would like to be able to submit user-edited content back to the server, but at present, it's not possible to do this without copying the contents of the edited element with JavaScript into, say, a hidden form field. I think that there should be some mechanism to associate

Re: [whatwg] Exposing framerate / statistics of video playback and related feedback

2012-05-01 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 28 May 2010, Ian Fette wrote: Has any thought been given to exposing such metrics as framerate, how many frames are dropped, rebuffering, etc from the video tag? It has come up a lot, but the main question is: what is

[whatwg] Outline Depth Does Not Correspond to Sectioning Depth?

2012-03-26 Thread Hugh Guiney
I am confused by the current definition of outline depth ( http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/sections.html#outline-depth), which, if I understand it correctly, states that the depth resets with each sub-outline. So, in the following: body h1Document Title/h1 section

Re: [whatwg] Outline Depth Does Not Correspond to Sectioning Depth?

2012-03-26 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: What text are you looking at that implies the outline depths of the headings in the first snippet are all 1? I could not find anything, but the person who wrote that JavaScript implementation seemed pretty convinced

Re: [whatwg] Outline Depth Does Not Correspond to Sectioning Depth?

2012-03-26 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: It's possible they'd gotten confused by the fact that the first heading in a section, no matter what rank it is, is more-or-less equivalent to a h1 as far as the outlining algorithm is concerned. Actually his stated

Re: [whatwg] Validator.nu: Attribute role not allowed on element h2 at this point.

2012-03-13 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: The validator is probably just not up to date. Note that that in this case the validator is probably right. If it's just presentational, why are you using h2? It doesn't seem presentational to me. I think you are incorrectly

[whatwg] Validator.nu: Attribute role not allowed on element h2 at this point.

2012-03-12 Thread Hugh Guiney
Why not? I have this in an otherwise-valid HTML5 + SVG 1.1 + MathML 2.0 + RDFa Lite 1.1 document: hgroup h1Company Name/h1 h2 role=presentationTagline/h2 /hgroup Spec says: Authors must not set the ARIA role and aria-* attributes in a manner that conflicts with the semantics described

Re: [whatwg] di? Please?

2012-03-04 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: There are a number of places in HTML where it would be nice to be able to group things together -- just look at how often people stick divs in their pages for no purpose whatsoever other than styling. This shouldn't be

Re: [whatwg] di? Please?

2012-03-04 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Then why is section in the spec? To make it easier to move subsections around without having to change all the h5s to h4s and so forth. That's it? So the fact that it provides explicit grouping and styling are unintentional

Re: [whatwg] di? Please?

2012-03-04 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: The only thing it adds to the grouping is the ability to have a subsection that is then followed by more content from the subsection's parent section. You couldn't do that with hx alone. However, for section that's more of a

Re: [whatwg] Allow Fallback Text to Render Section Titles in Outlines

2012-02-12 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis bhawkesle...@googlemail.com wrote: Doesn't the spec imply it should? That depends on whom you ask. I would think that it does, but since it doesn’t explicitly say to parse alternative text for replaced elements, implementors could simply

[whatwg] Allow Fallback Text to Render Section Titles in Outlines

2012-02-10 Thread Hugh Guiney
Currently when I run markup like this through outliner programs, they return blank section titles: h1img src=/img/logo.png alt=Company Name //h1 h1 svg g titleCompany Name/title path / … /g /svg /h1 I feel that in both instances, Company Name should become the

[whatwg] Media Player Seek Bars: Problems and Suggestions

2012-01-13 Thread Hugh Guiney
I'm currently creating a custom HTML video player UI. What I'm trying to achieve is a seek bar control—a horizontal slider that allows the user to seek to a specific point in time. Right now the basic functionality of this can be achieved using a range input with a max value set to the video's

Re: [whatwg] di? Please?

2012-01-10 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Jordan Dobson jordandob...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like what you want is flex box. Have you looked at that yet? I don't know flexbox too well yet—how would one use it to create a columnar dl? From what I can tell though, it still wouldn't allow me to style dt/dd

[whatwg] di? Please?

2012-01-09 Thread Hugh Guiney
As I understand it, the main reason for rejecting di was that it solves a problem that is allegedly CSS's job, but as an author who uses dls quite extensively, adding a grouping element would really make my life a lot easier. Yes, my most common problem with dls is styling them, but it's hardly

[whatwg] Fwd: Allow Select SVG Elements In head

2011-12-22 Thread Hugh Guiney
, 2010 at 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [whatwg] Allow Select SVG Elements In head To: Hugh Guiney hugh.gui...@gmail.com Cc: whatwg wha...@whatwg.org On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, Hugh Guiney wrote: I'm authoring an XHTML host document with namespaced inline SVG and XLink. I have vector images that recur throughout

[whatwg] Call for Clarification of the Menu Element Et Al.

2011-07-08 Thread Hugh Guiney
Hey All, I was in the process of coding a prototype for a site I'm working on when I decided that certain nav's should actually be menu's. While the basic concept is apparent, unfortunately, with zero browser implementation at this time, it is impossible to actually know what my markup is doing

[whatwg] Allow Headings As Children of summary

2010-10-27 Thread Hugh Guiney
I am authoring a video portfolio page using Kroc Camen's Video For Everybody code http://camendesign.com/code/video_for_everybody for each piece. In this code he includes a download section for users who may be unable to play the video live on the site, e.g. because they lack both HTML5 (or the

[whatwg] Validator.nu Bug: Error: XHTML element noscript not allowed as child of XHTML element head in this context.

2010-08-27 Thread Hugh Guiney
I am using noscript as permitted, In a head element of an HTML document, if there are no ancestor noscript elements. but still getting an error from Validator.nu saying it's not allowed. Settings: Encoding: as set by server/page Schemas: http://s.validator.nu/xhtml5-aria-rdf-svg-mathml.rnc

[whatwg] Allow Select SVG Elements In head

2010-08-27 Thread Hugh Guiney
I'm authoring an XHTML host document with namespaced inline SVG and XLink. I have vector images that recur throughout the site. I'd like to implement SVG's defs and use to reduce the file size of the document and keep style separate from content, as with CSS. If I put an SVG tree with defs

Re: [whatwg] Video source selection based on quality (was: video feedback)

2010-02-15 Thread Hugh Guiney
Thanks for your insight Silvia. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly, I think that explicit user choice isn't a problem. As a content provider, you have several means of doing this user choice: 1) You can provide in a single (admittedly

Re: [whatwg] Video source selection based on quality (was: video feedback)

2010-02-15 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Tim Hutt tdh...@gmail.com wrote: Erm, what? The 360p refers to the 'native' resolution of the video file youtube sends. If you play a 360p video fullscreen, it's still only got 360 lines; they're just scaled up. It would be meaningless if the number referred to

Re: [whatwg] Video source selection based on quality (was: video feedback)

2010-02-15 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:09 PM, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote: I think I agree with Tim here.  When you ask to watch 360p content, you are asking for content that has 360 lines of pixels to be displayed to you. Right. You're not asking for whatever is displayed to you to occupy only

Re: [whatwg] Video source selection based on quality (was: video feedback)

2010-02-15 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: ... Pixel aspect ratios. This whole discussion has been painful to watch. I know what pixel aspect ratios are. All too well, actually—for instance, the square-pixel equivalent of 720x480 widescreen can be either

Re: [whatwg] Quality Values for Media Source Elements

2009-12-15 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiff...@gmail.com wrote: I would almost consider simply using low quality and high quality as quality distinguishers (and maybe medium) and leave the actual choice of encoding to the hosting entity. Right now, may sites provide only two

Re: [whatwg] Quality Values for Media Source Elements

2009-12-13 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: JavaScript is an integral part of HTML to all intents and purposes. HTML itself does not and should not try to cover use-cases that are already adequately covered by HTML+JavaScript -- there will always be things

[whatwg] Quality Values for Media Source Elements

2009-12-12 Thread Hugh Guiney
Hey all, So, in my first foray into preparing Theora/Vorbis content, for use with video, I realized that I wasn't sure with what settings to encode my materials. Should I: A.) Supply my visitors with the best possible quality at the expense of loading/playback speed for people on slower

Re: [whatwg] Use cases for the time element

2009-12-10 Thread Hugh Guiney
I concur 100%. Additionally, I don't understand why the time element is allowed to specify an arbitrary hour, but not an arbitrary month or year. My own use case involves marking up years of publication for documents I have created, to be displayed in an online resume that can be sorted by date.

Re: [whatwg] Use cases for the time element

2009-12-10 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: Are you planning on using the information in time to *do* the sorting?  That is, when someone chooses sort by date, do you have scripting that searches in each section for a time and extracts the date to determine

Re: [whatwg] figureimg* caption

2009-12-02 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: The @caption proposal isn't for an attribute on p only, but rather for an attribute on any element that is a child of a figure. (It's just that most of the time using a p is most appropriate.) Ah, OK. Well, given the

Re: [whatwg] figureimg* caption

2009-12-01 Thread Hugh Guiney
Is there a reason we can't reuse legend (or label)? I don't think giving p an attribute that it can only use inside of figure is very straightforward.

Re: [whatwg] the cite element

2009-10-07 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:33 PM, David Workman workm...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about others, but that just looks ugly to me (the repetition of 'cite' looks unnecessary). I know elegance isn't crucial, but given the choice between cite for= and cite cite= I'd go for the former. As a

Re: [whatwg] the cite element

2009-10-07 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:51 PM, David Workman workm...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that href would be better than src due to the reasons you gave. However, rather than adding a new attribute of alias, could cite instead be given a name attribute that works similar to radio button names in forms

Re: [whatwg] the cite element

2009-10-06 Thread Hugh Guiney
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Erik Vorhes e...@textivism.com wrote: I suppose a allows for more functionality in current UAs, but this is an interesting proposition, especially if there were a way to crosslink cite used in this way to the original source (or whatever it would point to).