Michel Fortin wrote:
> Le 6 nov. 2006 à 7:04, Matthew Raymond a écrit :
>
>> Michel Fortin wrote:
>>
>>> This paragraph has a footnote>>> 1.
>>>
>>>
>>>This footnote can contain block-level elements!
>>>
>>>
>>I have a similar view, although I have some ref
Le 6 nov. 2006 à 12:32, Sander Tekelenburg a écrit :
Another thing is that whether the annotation should be considered a
footnote,
endnote or whateverelsenote seems to me a presentational issue, so
I'm not
that enthusiastic about calling it a element. Why not
simply
? You can then allow th
Le 6 nov. 2006 à 7:04, Matthew Raymond a écrit :
Michel Fortin wrote:
This paragraph has a footnote
1.
This footnote can contain block-level elements!
I have a similar view, although I have some refinements:
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| This paragraph has a footnote
| [
At 07:04 -0500 UTC, on 2006-11-06, Matthew Raymond wrote:
[...]
> |
> | This paragraph has a footnote
> | [1].
> |
What if you want multiple footnotes in the one paragraph?
This paragraph[1] has two footnotes[2].
Like that?
> | [...]
> |
> | References:
> |
> |
> |
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Michel Fortin wrote:
> This paragraph has a footnote >1.
>
>
>
>This footnote can contain block-level elements!
>
>
I have a similar view, although I have some refinements:
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| This paragraph has a footnote
| [1].
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| [...]
|
| References
Le 5 nov. 2006 à 7:52, Elliotte Harold a écrit :
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
Scholarly books sometimes use both footnotes and endnotes for
different things -- footnotes for citations and endnotes for
tangential discussions, or vice versa. I've never seen an HTML
document try to make this d
Elliotte Harold wrote:
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
Scholarly books sometimes use both footnotes and endnotes for
different things -- footnotes for citations and endnotes for
tangential discussions, or vice versa. I've never seen an HTML
document try to make this distinction, though.
Distin
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
Scholarly books sometimes use both footnotes and endnotes for different
things -- footnotes for citations and endnotes for tangential
discussions, or vice versa. I've never seen an HTML document try to make
this distinction, though.
Distinguishing footnotes and e
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:21:42 +0600, Matthew Paul Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> Footnotes and endnotes are identical in content in the context of a
>> print document and I am not certain how they'd differ even
>> presentationally on a web page, so yes, I think those can be
>> considered ide
On Oct 31, 2006, at 7:57 AM, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:54:12 +0600, David Walbert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
I would never want to require that a footnote be read to anyone,
thereby interrupting the text -- it is in the nature of a footnote to
be optional reading an
On Oct 31, 2006, at 7:20 AM, David Walbert wrote:
...
Footnotes and endnotes are identical in content in the context of a
print document and I am not certain how they'd differ even
presentationally on a web page, so yes, I think those can be
considered identical in terms of markup.
...
Sch
At 17:53 +0100 UTC, on 2006-10-31, Håkon Wium Lie wrote:
[...]
> W3C recently published a proposal on how to achieve
> footnote/endnote presentations using the same markup [1]. The proposal
> is quite simple. Given this markup:
>
> ..
>
> you would achieve footnoes with:
>
> .note { position:
Sander Tekelenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2006-11-01 06:10 +0100:
> At 20:35 -0800 UTC, on 2006-10-31, Jonathan Worent wrote:
>
> > I came across an article by Jesper Tverskov titled The benefits of
> >footnotes in webpages.
> > (http://www.smackthemouse.com/footnotes) It may be of interest.
>
> I
Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
At 20:35 -0800 UTC, on 2006-10-31, Jonathan Worent wrote:
I came across an article by Jesper Tverskov titled The benefits of
footnotes in webpages.
(http://www.smackthemouse.com/footnotes) It may be of interest.
IMO the problems with the title attribute he lists are
At 20:35 -0800 UTC, on 2006-10-31, Jonathan Worent wrote:
> I came across an article by Jesper Tverskov titled The benefits of
>footnotes in webpages.
> (http://www.smackthemouse.com/footnotes) It may be of interest.
IMO the problems with the title attribute he lists are in fact browser
implement
I came across an article by Jesper Tverskov titled The benefits of footnotes in
webpages.
(http://www.smackthemouse.com/footnotes) It may be of interest.
Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail
(http
James Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2006-10-31 14:30 +:
> I think and distinction between footnotes, sidenotes and endnotes is
> basically presentational and whilst we should try to ensure that markup+CSS
> can create all three appearances we shouldn't treat them distinctly.
As a name for foo
Le 31 oct. 2006 à 11:53, Håkon Wium Lie a écrit :
I agree. W3C recently published a proposal on how to achieve
footnote/endnote presentations using the same markup [1]. The proposal
is quite simple. Given this markup:
..
you would achieve footnoes with:
.note { position: footnote }
ane e
Also sprach Alexey Feldgendler:
> > I agree. W3C recently published a proposal on how to achieve
> > footnote/endnote presentations using the same markup [1]. The proposal
> > is quite simple. Given this markup:
> >
> > ..
> >
> > you would achieve footnoes with:
> >
> > .note { posit
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:53:04 +0600, Håkon Wium Lie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I agree. W3C recently published a proposal on how to achieve
footnote/endnote presentations using the same markup [1]. The proposal
is quite simple. Given this markup:
..
you would achieve footnoes with:
.note
On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:54:12 +0600, David Walbert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does anybody know how blind users prefer footnotes to be read for
them?
I would never want to require that a footnote be read to anyone,
thereby interrupti
Also sprach David Walbert:
>
> On Oct 31, 2006, at 9:30 AM, James Graham wrote:
>
> > I think and distinction between footnotes, sidenotes and endnotes
> > is basically presentational and whilst we should try to ensure that
> > markup+CSS can create all three appearances we shouldn't tr
On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Alexey Feldgendler wrote:Does anybody know how blind users prefer footnotes to be read for them? I would never want to require that a footnote be read to anyone, thereby interrupting the text -- it is in the nature of a footnote to be optional reading and to stand apar
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:54:12 +0600, David Walbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anybody know how blind users prefer footnotes to be read for
>> them?
> I would never want to require that a footnote be read to anyone,
> thereby interrupting the text -- it is in the nature of a footnote to
> b
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:16:36 +0600, James Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which won't work in the absence of CSS or javascript - not unprecedented in
> the spec but surely a disadvantage. How well will this markup work in an
> existing screenreader?
It's a separate question how should screenr
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:30:44 +0600, James Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Some text this is a sidenote to put
>>in the margin and some other text.
> This seems to have a poor backward compatibility story - in a non-supporting
> UA the note ends up in the flow.
It can be styled t
On Oct 31, 2006, at 9:30 AM, James Graham wrote:I think and distinction between footnotes, sidenotes and endnotes is basically presentational and whilst we should try to ensure that markup+CSS can create all three appearances we shouldn't treat them distinctly. Footnotes and endnotes are identical
Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:30:44 +0600, James Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Some text this is a sidenote to put
in the margin and some other text.
This seems to have a poor backward compatibility story - in a non-supporting
UA the note ends up in the flow
Michel Fortin wrote:
Le 30 oct. 2006 à 15:33, Ian Hickson a écrit :
One thing to consider when
looking at footnotes is "would the title="" attribute handle this use
case
as well as what I'm proposing?". If the answer is "yes", or "almost",
then
it's probably not a good idea to introduce the
Ian Hickson wrote:
* note and reference for footnotes, endnotes, and sidenotes (not
aside in “HTML5”)
If anyone has any ideas on this, please post them to the list. (The
CSS group is also looking at footnotes closely.)
It would useful to look at previous work and discussion on this issue.
Le 30 oct. 2006 à 15:33, Ian Hickson a écrit :
* note and reference for footnotes, endnotes, and sidenotes (not
aside in “HTML5”)
Yes, this is an area where document and converter authors
currently need
to come up with their own class-based hacks. Ideally a continuous
media
user agent
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