Re: [whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

2009-07-17 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009, Jeff Walden wrote: (For the few authors who really want to go crazy, they can already overlap HTML onto theirvideo and do whatever crazy stuff they want to do.) By way of a use case for at least color and positioning, there's a certain part of the third (?)

Re: [whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

2009-07-17 Thread Jeff Walden
On 17.7.09 02:15, Ian Hickson wrote: I think this particular case can be a victim of the 80% rule. Fair enough, probably. Jeff

Re: [whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

2009-07-17 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009, Jeff Walden wrote: (For the few authors who really want to go crazy, they can already overlap HTML onto theirvideo and do whatever crazy stuff they want to do.) By way of a use case for at least color

Re: [whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

2009-07-17 Thread Dan Brickley
On 17/7/09 15:04, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009, Jeff Walden wrote: (For the few authors who really want to go crazy, they can already overlap HTML onto theirvideo and do whatever crazy stuff they want to do.) By

Re: [whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff Walden
On 15.7.09 17:56, Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Ian Fette wrote: However, there's a lot of uses for subtitles / captions that cannot be met with subrip. No styling (beyond the bare basics), no karaoke commands, no alpha, no nice handling for collisions, margins, shadow colors,

Re: [whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

2009-07-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Greg Millam wrote: Here is my proposal: [...] I think this proposal is a good direction to go in. However, I think it is still too early to put this in HTML5, and based on the quality of implementations so far, it will probably still be too early by the time HTML5 goes

Re: [whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

2009-02-20 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Greg Millam wrote: * All timed text tracks encoded in the video file are added to the list, as an implicit caption element. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I don't think implying a new element in the HTML based on text tracks within the media file is a good idea, and nor is it

Re: [whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

2009-02-20 Thread Jeff Walden
On 20.2.09 05:54, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Greg Millam wrote: * All timed text tracks encoded in the video file are added to the list, as an implicit caption element. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I don't think implying a new element in the HTML based on text tracks within the media

Re: [whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

2009-02-19 Thread Kristof Zelechovski
Instead of * getCaptionList(): returns an array of caption elements. Have * getCaptions(): returns an array of caption elements.

Re: [whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

2009-02-19 Thread Ian Fette
Greg, I think that it's important that there be something that everyone can depend on being present across all UAs, so I commend your dedication here. I think adding subrip as a baseline is a great idea so that everyone knows that there's something that works everywhere, and subrip is dead simple.

Re: [whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

2009-02-19 Thread Eric Carlson
Greg - Interesting ideas! A few questions that occur to me on first read: On Feb 19, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Greg Millam wrote: HTML5 / Page Author: * Each video will have a list of zero or more Timed Text tracks. * A track has three variables for selection: Type, Language, Name. These can be

Re: [whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

2009-02-19 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Feb 20, 2009, at 00:37, Greg Millam wrote: The current state of accessibility and captions in HTML5 has been relegated to http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Video_accessibility - a wiki page with use cases, requirements, existing solutions, and an empty Proposed Solutions category. Since then,