Re: [Wiki-research-l] The role of English Wikipedia's top content creators in perpetuating gender bias

2014-02-20 Thread David Monniaux
And, indeed, I see your point. For historical/older information, it is indeed difficult to write about women's sports because these topics were not widely covered on paper (newspapers, books) but for current teams, at least for factual information, there is a large quantity of information online.

[Wiki-research-l] General user survey: future plans?

2014-02-20 Thread Samuel Klein
There has been a healthy amount of discussion recently about project-level surveys. Is anyone working on a general user survey? An annual version of this would be valuable: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/General_User_Survey Likewise, an annual report on opt-in data from user preferences. SJ _

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The role of English Wikipedia's top content creators in perpetuating gender bias

2014-02-20 Thread Kerry Raymond
Great work, Jane! Kerry -Original Message- From: wiki-research-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Darnell Sent: Thursday, 20 February 2014 10:44 PM To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities Subject: Re: [Wiki-res

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The role of English Wikipedia's top content creators in perpetuating gender bias

2014-02-20 Thread Laura Hale
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:55 PM, David Monniaux wrote: > > I'm not a sports connoisseur, but if I go to a typical library, there is > a range of books on popular *male* sports. I can find biographies of > famous players, histories of major clubs, etc. A quick Amazon search for > instance shows me

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The role of English Wikipedia's top content creators in perpetuating gender bias

2014-02-20 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:55 AM, David Monniaux wrote: > > I do not find such books on female sports. In fact, if I look for a book > on the French women's soccer team on Amazon, I find something... > extracted from Wikipedia! (Recall that football is the most popular > sport in France...) > > In

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The role of English Wikipedia's top content creators in perpetuating gender bias

2014-02-20 Thread David Monniaux
Your example of sports is very interesting. I agree that above a certain level, any team etc. is inherently notable. There is still, however, the question of available sources, I'm not a sports connoisseur, but if I go to a typical library, there is a range of books on popular *male* sports. I can

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The role of English Wikipedia's top content creators in perpetuating gender bias

2014-02-20 Thread Jane Darnell
As one of the English Wikipedia's top content creators [1], let me weigh in here with a shameless plug that I would like to present my work at Wikimania this year and am hoping for sponsorship from the WMF in order to do that.[2] I agree heartily with Laura that One of the things that really needs

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The role of English Wikipedia's top content creators in perpetuating gender bias

2014-02-20 Thread Laura Hale
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:16 AM, David Monniaux wrote: > > This could help identify to which extent the problem is created by the > Wikipedia authors, as opposed to simply reflecting the situation of > current scholarly literature. That is, I would like to distinguish the > effects of the Wikiped

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The role of English Wikipedia's top content creators in perpetuating gender bias

2014-02-20 Thread David Monniaux
I would be interested in the following: As we all know, the rules on sourcing and against original research on Wikipedia make it difficult to write about topics that are not widely covered; furthermore, regarding academic topics, the rules encourage seeking scholarly sources. Thus, it is difficult

Re: [Wiki-research-l] The role of English Wikipedia's top content creators in perpetuating gender bias

2014-02-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Stuart A. Yeates, 18/02/2014 01:48: What would be great would be a set survey of the top 5000 (i.e. the group that Laura is already working with) where they were asked basic questions about the fields they edited in and their perception of gender bias, then half way through they were presented wi