Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-27 Thread Finn Aarup Nielsen
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, John Vandenberg wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Jodi Schneider jodi.schnei...@deri.org wrote: ... [3] Other side-effects might be helping to identify what's highly cited in Wikipedia (which would be interesting -- and might help prioritize Wikisource

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-26 Thread Samuel Klein
Jakob writes: there already *are* communities that collect and share bibliographic data I would be happy if anyone does what I was describing; no point in reinventing what already exists. But I have not found it: I mean a public collection of citations, with reader-editable commentary and

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-21 Thread Daniel Mietchen
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: I like your suggestion that the abc disambiguator be chosen based on the first date of publication, and I also like the prospect of using slashes since they can't be contained in names. Using the full year is a

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-21 Thread Daniel Kinzler
1) The first three author names separated by slashes why not separate by pluses? they don't form part of names either, and don't cause problems with wiki page titles. I like this... however, how would you represent this in a URL? Also note that using plusses in page names don't work with all

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-21 Thread Daniel Mietchen
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de wrote: 1) The first three author names separated by slashes why not separate by pluses? they don't form part of names either, and don't cause problems with wiki page titles. I like this... however, how would you represent

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-21 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.dewrote: 1) The first three author names separated by slashes why not separate by pluses? they don't form part of names either, and don't cause problems with wiki page titles. I like this... however, how would you represent

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-21 Thread David Goodman
The model for this is WP:Book sources, though this relies upon the user selecting the appropriate places to look, rather than guiding him. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Jodi Schneider jodi.schnei...@deri.org wrote: On 21 Jul 2010, at 19:47, Brian J Mingus wrote:  Finn, I'm not a fan of

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-21 Thread David Goodman
Sure, but first, is this capable of being done at all? I have never seen a method of bibliographic control that can cope with the complete range of publications, even just print publications. Perhaps we need to proceed within narrow domains. Second, is this capable of being done by

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-21 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:47 PM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, but first, is this capable of being done at all? I have never seen a method of bibliographic control that can cope with the complete range of publications, even just print publications. Perhaps we need to

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-20 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@robla.net wrote: On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: I have been working with Sam and others for some time now on brainstorming a proposal for the Foundation to create a centralized wiki of

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-20 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Brian, The meta process for new project proposals is still the cleanest one for suggesting a specific Project and presenting it alongside similar projects. It would be helpful if you could update a related project

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Brian J Mingus, 19/07/2010 22:20: The basic idea is a centralized wiki that contains citation information that other MediaWikis and WMF projects can then reference using something like a {{cite}} template or a simple link. The community can document the citation, the author, the book etc..

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Foundation-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal for a universal citation index

2010-07-19 Thread Sunir Shah
Hey folks, I've been lurking on this list since the beginning of time and saw this fly by. Thanks Nemo for the shout out. That is pretty much what Bibdex is about. My inspiration was a Big Hairy Goal to provide a central place where the body of academic knowledge can be curated by the public in