Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal?

2012-11-04 Thread Ed H. Chi
There has been a lot of talk about how to start a journal. The real issue in starting a journal is not the editorial board, or the way it is published, or whether it will gather the citation impact. The real issue is READERSHIP. If you can get people to read the journal, then it will have

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal?

2012-11-04 Thread Joe Corneli
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Ed H. Chi c...@acm.org wrote: There has been a lot of talk about how to start a journal. The real issue in starting a journal is not the editorial board, or the way it is published, or whether it will gather the citation impact. The real issue is READERSHIP.

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal?

2012-11-04 Thread Juliana Bastos Marques
Ed and others, based on your observations, I'd like to pose a side question: The impression that I get from many of these symposia (and journals) is that there is not much space for research concerning Wikipedia and Education, such as teaching methodologies, case studies and such, not on the side

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal?

2012-11-04 Thread Pierre-Carl Langlais
Yes, that's a good point. Nevertheless, readership is not an inherent quality. It depends on several factors, most of which are attractiveness (is the journal layout fine to read? does the selection brings up insightful content?), positioning (which scientific disciplines are concerned?)

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal?

2012-11-04 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
actually, with our community, it is not. What other journals die for, we have sort of provided. This is why a Wiki journal may have a better chance than others, but only if it is prepared with the academic career paths and full proper code of conduct nuances considered (double-blind scholarly peer

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal?

2012-11-04 Thread Ziko van Dijk
This is exactly my problem nowadays. I am a historian and don't have much to say about software and data mining, but would like to read more about the humanities approach with regard to Wikipedia. Readers experiences and expectations, Wikipedia in school and university etc. Kind regards Ziko

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal?

2012-11-04 Thread Kerry Raymond
So long as Google scholar is indexing the journal, I see no problem with finding a readership. How often do you start your quest for relevant literature by sitting down with a set of journal titles? Yes, that's how we used to do it. But now everyone just sits down in front of Google Scholar and

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

2012-11-03 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Brian has a good idea, and I think that e.g. the Journal of Peer Production could be potentially open to being hijacked :) Reviewers cannot be anonymous to the managing editor if the journal is to satisfy the traditional criteria of peer review. However, one simple innovation would be allowing

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

2012-11-03 Thread Iolanda Pensa
dear all, great idea(s). i'll be happy to help. i have a question. -- How about WIkipedia articles? For WikiAfrica Primary School Project (2013-2015) we are looking for a journal which can publish or produce peer-reviewed Wikipedia articles (anyone can produce or propose an article but

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

2012-11-02 Thread Pierre-Carl Langlais
I have just made a very quick draft to have a general idea of what the journal could be : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Alexander_Doria/First_Proposal_for_a_Wiki_Journal It includes notably a « Making-Of » section that comprises all the working and contextual texts that are not

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

2012-11-02 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, I find it a very good idea (I expressed it in 2008 or 2009); the focus should be somewhat defined, e..g wiki's and open content; and it should be done in a way that others respect the journal. Kind regards Ziko 2012/11/2 Juliana Bastos Marques domusau...@gmail.com: As far as my experience

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

2012-11-02 Thread Juliana Bastos Marques
As for any candidates for institutional academic support, I could easily arrange for my university, Federal University of Rio de Janeiro State (UNIRIO - http://www.unirio.br), where I've been setting a wiki research Lab and we have a very good Library Studies Dept., where they can help us with the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

2012-11-02 Thread Piotr Konieczny
I would like to volunteer to help, but I agree with Darek that we need to aim towards entering serious journal rankings from day 1. I think we can both experiment with the wiki publishing model, and prepare a pdf versions if needed for the traditionalists; it's not like it's difficult -

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

2012-11-02 Thread Brian Keegan
Have you all considered whether the costs of bootstrapping up a set of editors and authors, playing the impact factor game, and articulating a mission that is broad enough to include computer scientists and historians warrant the benefits of having yet another outlet to publish wiki research? The

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

2012-11-02 Thread Piotr Konieczny
I like the draft design. Here's an idea on how to do tackle the double blind peer review, wiki way: 1) anonymous submissions: let's have a public account for submissions (username and password either listed on the journal page, or given out by editor through email). This being meta or

[Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

2012-11-01 Thread Pierre-Carl Langlais
Dear colleagues, Last week I attended the parisian Open Access week main event that was held at the Unesco. I evoked briefly the migntable project of a Wiki Research Journal that was discussed in september (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Research_Ideas ). It was received with a good

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

2012-11-01 Thread Pierre-Carl Langlais
Le 1 nov. 2012 à 17:14, Piotr Konieczny pio...@post.pl a écrit : On 11/1/2012 7:45 AM, Pierre-Carl Langlais wrote: *Technical issue : we probably need a specific wiki. Whereas not highly sophisticated, it should perhaps include some reading functions in order to make the journal main

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

2012-11-01 Thread Aaron Halfaker
I'd suggest focusing on the area of wiki studies, nothing more and nothing less. I don't think that this is a good strategy. Wiki's are just one type of collaboration support software. What if the artifact of collaboration is not hypertext? Most people would not consider a open source code

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Jounal…

2012-11-01 Thread Piotr Konieczny
This is not a list for researching collaboration support software, this is a list for discussing one specific type of it, the wikis (with a focus on Wikipedia). I see nothing wrong with retaining this focus, and I am surprised that the rather successful WikiSym is trying to reframe itself.