[Wikidata] Re: web reference

2023-07-28 Thread Denny Vrandečić
e cases, and try our best to help. I hope that the page now is in a state Dr Lemaire is content with. I want to extend her an apology, although I am not sure she will read this message. Best regards, Denny Vrandečić On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 1:41 PM Vi to wrote: > This mailing list

[Wikidata] Re: A Wikidata App?

2022-02-03 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I think it would be great to have a mobile app for Wikidata. On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 10:59 AM geislemx wrote: > Hey all, > > I hope this mail finds you well in this trying times. > Over the last month I invested some time and put a little project > together for personal purpose. Long story short

[Wikidata] Licensing discussion for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions

2021-12-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
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[Wikidata] Re: History of some original Wikidata design decisions?

2021-07-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
really should write that book! Cheers, Denny On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 3:00 PM Thad Guidry wrote: > *Tobi - *That blog post 3 is very helpful. It shows that Denny and I > think alike and agree on everything. :-) His dislike for strong > classification. > Which is part of my bas

[Wikidata] Focus languages for improvements to the lexicographic extension of Wikidata and Abstract Wikipedia

2021-03-03 Thread Denny Vrandečić
. Participating communities will hopefully find that this project leads to long-term growth in Wikipedia and Wiktionary in and about their language. Lydia and Denny would like to choose the same focus languages for both of the teams, as this is beneficial for both projects to have this aligned. We

[Wikidata] Wikidata reaches Q100000000

2020-10-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
A short blogpost by Lydia and me on the diff blog: https://diff.wikimedia.org/2020/10/06/wikidata-reaches-q1/ Congratulations to the community, congratulations to the project! ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikidata] Publishing lexical masks for Wikidata lexicographic data

2020-06-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
We have released lexical masks as ShEx files before, schemata for lexicographic forms that can be used to validate whether the data is complete. We saw that it was quite challenging to turn these ShEx files into forms for entering the data, such as Lucas Werkmeister’s Lexeme Forms. So we adapted

Re: [Wikidata-tech] Wikidata history and discussion records

2020-06-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
There's also this paper, which might be interesting for what you are doing: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q73506477 On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:42 AM Denny Vrandečić wrote: > The dump with the (almost) complete edit history can be found here: > > https://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki

Re: [Wikidata-tech] Wikidata history and discussion records

2020-06-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
The dump with the (almost) complete edit history can be found here: https://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/20200501/ Search for "edit history" on that page. There are two versions, in two different compression formats. It is rather big. On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 7:52 AM Elisavet Koutsiana <

Re: [Wikidata-tech] Slow loading process

2020-06-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Did you see this? https://addshore.com/2019/10/your-own-wikidata-query-service-with-no-limits-part-1/ On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 12:51 Leandro Tabares Martín < leandro.tabaresmar...@uhasselt.be> wrote: > Dear all, > > I'm loading the whole wikidata dataset into Blazegraph using a High > Performance

Re: [Wikidata-tech] Research on Wikidata dataset

2020-06-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Did you see this? https://addshore.com/2019/10/your-own-wikidata-query-service-with-no-limits-part-1/ On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:13 AM Leandro Tabares Martín < leandro.tabaresmar...@uhasselt.be> wrote: > Dear all, > > I am a researcher from Hasselt University performing research on Query >

Re: [Wikidata-tech] New technical writer for Wikibase/Wikidata

2020-05-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Welcome to Wikidata! Thanks for taking on such an important task for outreach! On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 3:02 AM Dan Shick wrote: > Hi all! > > I’m Dan Shick ( https://w.wiki/RDs ), the new technical writer at > Wikimedia Deutschland. My goals are to discover, improve, unify and > round out

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikidata-tech] New technical writer for Wikibase/Wikidata

2020-05-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Welcome to Wikidata! Thanks for taking on such an important task for outreach! On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 3:02 AM Dan Shick wrote: > Hi all! > > I’m Dan Shick ( https://w.wiki/RDs ), the new technical writer at > Wikimedia Deutschland. My goals are to discover, improve, unify and > round out

[Wikidata] Proposal for a new Wikimedia project: Wikilambda

2020-05-05 Thread Denny Vrandečić
of your voices and support signatures, so that I can go to the Board and tell them look at this :) So please sign here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikilambda Thank you, Denny ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikidata] Partial RDF dumps

2020-05-01 Thread Denny Vrandečić
, and that is more relevant to have automated calls be able to do that format selection, which the endpoint provides. Thanks, Denny On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 9:59 AM Kingsley Idehen wrote: > On 5/1/20 11:53 AM, Isaac Johnson wrote: > > If the challenge is downloading large files, you can

Re: [Wikidata] Partial RDF dumps

2020-04-29 Thread Denny Vrandečić
CONSTRUCT would be best, but I am not sure that there's any system to allows you to do that. What I would do is get the truthy dump in ntriples, and filter out all lines with the respective properties. The Wikidata Toolkit allows you to do that and more.

Re: [Wikidata] Weekly Summary #411

2020-04-29 Thread Denny Vrandečić
If you're interested in all new created schemas, you can actually follow a feed for that. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1=1=1=1=1=640=50=14__likelybad_color=c4__verylikelybad_color=c5=2 There's a link to the atom feed on the left hand toolbar. Cheers, Denny

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikidata-tech] New Community Communications Manager for Wikidata/Wikibase

2020-04-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Mohammed, welcome! I am very happy to see you join in this important role. Thank you, Denny On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:11 AM Léa Lacroix wrote: > Welcome onboard Mohammed! > I'm glad that you're here and to have your support in order to address the > requests from the

Re: [Wikidata] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

2020-04-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
to see which biases are intentional in a language editions, and which ones are not, in the hope that we can then tackle certain biases in some language editions in a more targeted way. Thank you for your kind words, and I am also very excited to get this thing moving! :) Stay safe, Denny On Fri

[Wikidata] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

2020-04-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
hope it will happen on Meta or on Wikimedia-l, but I also wanted to give a ping here. Stay safe! Denny [1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2020-April/094621.html [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum#Proposal_towards_a_multilingual_Wikipedia_and_a_new_Wikipedia_project

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata-powered COVID19 Dashboard

2020-04-12 Thread Denny Vrandečić
It is allowed (and in fact encouraged) to embed Wikidata query results in your site. That was one of the original use cases. Also, I wouldn't worry tremendously about the load on the Query server from that as this is particularly well cachable and cached. To the best of my knowledge, embedded

Re: [Wikidata] Qualifiers/sources for YSO authority links

2020-03-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Yes, that sounds good to me. Either create an item for that (preferred) or link to the URL directly. On Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 04:06 Osma Suominen wrote: > Thanks Denny. > > Do you have a practical suggestion how to do this? There's no obvious > source URL to refer to currently. What

Re: [Wikidata] Qualifiers/sources for YSO authority links

2020-03-12 Thread Denny Vrandečić
When we were uploading the links to Freebase, we also added references fro these. And since you've gone through all this work (thank you for that!) verifying the links, I think it would be fair to add a respective reference. On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:27 AM Osma Suominen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm

Re: [Wikidata] Reduced loading times for Wikidata/Wikimedia Commons

2020-02-11 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That's awesome, thanks! On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 3:46 AM Léa Lacroix wrote: > Hey, > > On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 12:30, Nicolas VIGNERON > wrote: > >> Great ! >> >> Two small perfectionist question: >> - is it finished or can we maybe go further? >> > It is finished for now, but we should continue

Re: [Wikidata] Status of Wikidata Query Service

2020-02-11 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Oh, wow, I just tried that out too, and indeed, it used to be possible to link to the L-number very quickly if I remember correctly, but now this is not the case anymore. Weirdly enough, the SPARQL endpoint got updated with the new Lexeme very quickly. So I think these two things are not related.

Re: [Wikidata-tech] how to load a dump of wikidata into a local wikibase

2020-01-16 Thread Denny Vrandečić
This should probably help: https://addshore.com/2019/10/your-own-wikidata-query-service-with-no-limits-part-1/ On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:27 AM Peter F. Patel-Schneider < pfpschnei...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is this the recommended way to set up a local copy of Wikidata? (If not, > what > is the

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata Query Service update lag

2019-11-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 12:49 AM Denny Vrandečić > wrote: > >> Just wondering, is there a way to let volunteers look into the issue? (I >> guess no because it would give potentially access to the query stream, but >> maybe the answer is more optimistic) >> >

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata Query Service update lag

2019-11-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Just wondering, is there a way to let volunteers look into the issue? (I guess no because it would give potentially access to the query stream, but maybe the answer is more optimistic) On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 2:39 PM Thad Guidry wrote: > In the enterprise, most folks use either Java Mission

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T235225: Wikidata: when adding a gloss, the cursor focus does not go to the right field

2019-10-16 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. In Chrome. But it does not happen on the first gloss (since Remove is grayed out on the first gloss), only on the second and other additional glosses. The part with the "Remove" is kinda OK. I would prefer it would jump to Remove only if I left the g

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T235225: Wikidata: when adding a gloss, the cursor focus does not go to the right field

2019-10-10 Thread Denny
Denny created this task. Denny added projects: Wikidata, Lexicographical data. TASK DESCRIPTION When creating a Sense in a Lexeme, I choose the language, tab to the field, enter the gloss, tab to Remove (which should preferably tab to Add instead), tab again to Add, press return, it adds

[Wikidata] Comparison of Wikidata, DBpedia, and Freebase (draft and invitation)

2019-09-30 Thread Denny Vrandečić
is the core project to weave value-adding workflows on top of Wikidata or other datasets from the linked open data cloud together. But that's just a proposal. Cheers, Denny On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 12:28 AM wrote: > Hi Gerard, > > I was not trying to judge here. I was just saying

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T233763: Searching Lexeme:Danke on Wikidata breaks it

2019-09-24 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. Oh, wow, it also happens for Lexeme:thanks I am super curious what is happening here! TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T233763 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Denny Cc: Aklapper, Denny

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T233763: Searching Lexeme:Danke on Wikidata breaks it

2019-09-24 Thread Denny
Denny created this task. Denny added a project: Wikidata. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION When I search for Lexeme:Danke from the Search box in Wikidata (upper right corner) I get the message [XYqWIwpAADoAAJk2AOEAAABL] 2019-09-24 22:18:11: Fatal

Re: [Wikidata] Personal news: a new role

2019-09-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thanks everyone for this warm welcome (back)! On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 10:38 Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Off to my Todo list :) > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:46 AM Andy Mabbett > wrote: > >> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 17:56, Denny Vrandečić >> wrote: >> >>

Re: [Wikidata] Google's stake in Wikidata and Wikipedia

2019-09-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Sep 20, 2019 at 1:32 PM Denny Vrandečić > wrote: > >> Yes, you're touching exactly on the problems I had during the evaluation >> - I couldn't even figure out what DBpedia is. Thanks, your help will be >> very much appreciated. >> >> OK, I will send a link the week

Re: [Wikidata] Personal news: a new role

2019-09-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Off to my Todo list :) On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:46 AM Andy Mabbett wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 17:56, Denny Vrandečić > wrote: > > > I am moving to a new role in Google Research, akin to a Wikimedian in > > Residence > > That's marvelous; congratulatio

Re: [Wikidata] Personal news: a new role

2019-09-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
), not the Open Source office. But I plan to publish more code forthgoing, so I will continue to work with them. On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:35 AM Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Denny Vrandečić, 19/09/19 19:56: > > I had used my 20% time to support such teams. The requests became more > > fr

Re: [Wikidata] Google's stake in Wikidata and Wikipedia

2019-09-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Knowledge Graph Talk thing. I was a bit > grumpy, because I thought I wasted a lot of time on the Talk page that > could have been invested in making the article better (WP:BE_BOLD style), > but now I think, it might have been my own mistake. So apologies for > lashing out there. > &g

Re: [Wikidata] Google's stake in Wikidata and Wikipedia

2019-09-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
istakes, and stuff I missed in the evaluation. But you know what would help? You. My suggestion is that I publish my current draft, and then you and me work together on it, publically, in the open, until we reach a state we both consider correct enough for publication. What do you think? Cheer

Re: [Wikidata] Dead or alive ? Probably dead

2019-09-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I think if we wanted to do this with a bot, we should go through the usual bot approval process, and discuss this on wiki? But in general, as said, adding unknown value to people who are very very sure to be dead sounds like a good idea ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q28 ) On Thu, Sep 19,

Re: [Wikidata] Dead or alive ? Probably dead

2019-09-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
"unknown value" was made for exactly that use case - a person that has died, but we don't know when. I would just add that on the "date of death" property. On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:25 AM Thomas Douillard wrote: > We have already a qualifier for this kind of stuffs, I think : P887 >

[Wikidata] Personal news: a new role

2019-09-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
looking forward to see them get out of the gates! I am looking forward to hearing your ideas and suggestions, and to continue contributing to the Wikimedia goals. Cheers, Denny P.S.: Which also means, incidentally, that my 20% time is opening for new shenanigans [3]. [1] https

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T232356: QIDs are hard to select on mobile in Wikidata

2019-09-10 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. I tried Lucas suggestion, and it solves the reason for the bug. When there are two actions, it still works fine (but their relative positioning of the action icons changes slightly - they squeeze together). Functionality wise, his suggested fix works. Here's

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T232356: QIDs are hard to select on mobile in Wikidata

2019-09-09 Thread Denny
Denny created this task. Denny added projects: Wikidata Mobile, Wikidata-Termbox, Wikidata, Mobile. Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. TASK DESCRIPTION When using Chrome on my Pixel 3a, since the new Termbox has launched (which, by the way, is awesome), it is hard

Re: [Wikidata] "Collaborating on the sum of all knowledge across languages"

2019-09-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Gerard, thank you for your comments. I agree with them - the generated text shouldn't be stored in the local Wikipedias, but merely cached. I have updated the text accordingly to make it explicit. Thanks! Cheers, Denny On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 11:09 PM Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, >

Re: [Wikidata] Virtuoso hosted Wikidata Instance

2019-08-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That is really cool! Thanks and congratulations! I will certainly play with it. Is it in some way synced or is it a static snapshot? On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 4:10 PM Kingsley Idehen wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > A little FYI. > > We have loaded Wikidata into a Virtuoso instance accessible via

Re: [Wikidata] Ontology in XML

2019-08-12 Thread Denny Vrandečić
ich have all the predicate defined. > > On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 22:23, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > >> Maybe you mean this file: >> >> >> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/master/docs/ontology.owl >> >> >>

Re: [Wikidata] Ontology in XML

2019-08-12 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Maybe you mean this file: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/master/docs/ontology.owl Cheers, Denny On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 7:20 AM Sebastian Hellmann < hellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote: > Hi Ali, all, > > we have this d

Re: [Wikidata] "Wikidata item" link to be moved in the menu column on Wikimedia projects

2019-08-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thank you for the message, Lea, this seems like a good step. On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 8:19 AM Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Easy, my user interface is English in all of them. > Thanks, > GerardN > > On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 16:39, Imre Samu wrote: > >> *> Suggestion* display the Q number in

Re: [Wikidata] Generating EntitySchema from Wikidata Lexeme Forms data

2019-07-24 Thread Denny Vrandečić
tool’s templates API > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikidata_Lexeme_Forms#Templates_API> > rather than the wiki page itself: transcribing the templates into > structured form takes some time, there’s no need for someone else to do it > again :) > > Cheers, >

[Wikidata] Generating EntitySchema from Wikidata Lexeme Forms data

2019-07-23 Thread Denny Vrandečić
://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikidata_Lexeme_Forms/German (If Danish and German were the same language, which they are not, obviously, but this is to exemplify the idea). If not, does anyone want to work / cooperate on that? Cheers, Denny ___ Wikidata mailing

Re: [Wikidata-tech] Create a claim with a reference

2019-07-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Worked perfectly well! Thanks! On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 1:31 PM Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Thank you Antonin, that's reassuring, I'll try that! > > Cheers, > Denny > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 12:48 PM Antonin Delpeuch (lists) < > li...@antonin.delpeuch.eu> wrot

Re: [Wikidata-tech] Create a claim with a reference

2019-07-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thank you Antonin, that's reassuring, I'll try that! Cheers, Denny On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 12:48 PM Antonin Delpeuch (lists) < li...@antonin.delpeuch.eu> wrote: > Hi Denny, > > You are correct that wbsetclaim can create a claim with a reference. You > just need to pa

[Wikidata-tech] Create a claim with a reference

2019-07-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
es the API allow the creation of a claim with a reference in a single step? And if yes, how? 2. Does pyWikibot allow it? And if yes, how? Cheers, Denny ___ Wikidata-tech mailing list Wikidata-tech@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailma

[Wikidata] "Collaborating on the sum of all knowledge across languages"

2019-07-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
pubpub.org/pub/vyf7ksah Cheers, Denny ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2019-01-15 Thread Denny Vrandečić
AllPages=202 > e.g. http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/OntologyProperty:BirthDate > > You could directly use the DBpedia-lemon lexicalisation for Wikidata. > > The mappings can be downloaded with > > git clone https://github.com/dbpedia/extraction-framework ; cd core ; > ../run download-mappin

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T201000: Show Gloss in entity selector when entering Sense as a value in a statement

2018-08-16 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. That looks neat.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201000EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: DennyCc: Denny, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, RazShuty, WMDE-leszek, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, Mringgaard, Lahi, Gq86

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-25 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. "what are the benefit for the Wikimedia community of using exclusively CC-0 for its single Wikibase instance usable in the rest of its environment?" This question is, I think, less suitable for a lawyer. I think this is a very interesting question, but I'd rather

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
or images. But for data anything else is just weird and will bite is in the long run more than we might ever benefit. So, just to say it again: if the Gutachten you mentioned could be made available, that would be very very awesome! Thank you, Denny On Thu, May 17, 2018, 23:06 Sebastian Hellmann

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-18 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. @Mateusz_Konieczny I like R-OSM-1 too. I would go now for these two questions. I'd really like to have @Psychoslave chime in, as he was the one opening this bug and certainly being the most vocal on this topic, as far as I have seen, so I will leave this open for a few days

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-18 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. @Rspeer My previous suggestion to @Psychoslave was P) "Can you comment on the practise of extracting data from Wikipedia articles, which are published under CC-BY-SA, and storing the results in Wikidata, where they are published under CC-0?" I guess th

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-18 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. @MisterSynergy yes, I agree, it would seriously weaken Wikidata. Nevertheless it is good to resolve legal uncertainties as far as reasonable. Regarding Gnom1 - well, he did write the previous, official answer by Wikilegal, which is why I consider that a great offer. But I

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-18 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. @Micru I agree with @Cirdan that this would be a rather worrying way to deal with the situation. Also, as @Nemo_bis points out, it really couldn't be just the communities doing so. In my understanding, it would need an update to the CC license itself, which would need

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
linked-data.html > > > > On 11 May 2018 at 23:10, Rob Speer <r...@luminoso.com> wrote: > > > > > Wow, thanks for the heads up. When I was getting upset about projects > > that > > > change the license on Wikimedia content and commercialize it, I

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-17 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. @Rspeer If I link an article from the German Wikipedia to the English Wikipedia by adding an interwiki link on the German Wikipedia, and then an interwiki bot makes this link be reciprocal by adding the interwiki link on the English Wikipedia, there is no attribution to me

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-17 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. I was reading the article you linked to - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sch%C3%B6pfungsh%C3%B6he#Sch%C3%B6pfungsh%C3%B6he_seit_2013 - and nothing there lets me believe that the list of Interwikilinks would have sufficient "Schöpfungshöhe".TASK D

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-17 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. @Rspeer Copyright has to be about some concrete _expression_. Are you claiming that the interwiki links that used to be in Wikipedia articles until five years ago should have had copyright protection? Their concrete _expression_ was [[en:London]] [[fr:Londres]] [[hr:London

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-14 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. @Nemo_bis : good point. I wouldn't know what a good example is, though, maybe someone else can come up with something.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: DennyCc: Lofhi

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-14 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. @Rspeer regarding the ontology: the ontology of Wikidata is genuinely unique and not copied from any Wikipedia project, or any other project. It has been created on Wikidata. Regarding the translations: we are talking about the labels of things in different languages

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-14 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. @Nemo_bis thanks, I agree with your point a lot. But regarding your question - just because there is a database which happens to reproducible should not trigger any right issues. To give an example: it is easy to imagine a company that sells the list of all countries

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-14 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. @Psychoslave sorry to disagree on the questions, but are we in any disagreement on these three questions? We should not allow the (significant) import of data from databases which are licensed under a license incompatible with CC-0. We should enforce that. We should

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-13 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. @Gnom1 - yes, anything that you can contribute would be awesome. Unfortunately, this request here is all over the place, ranging from the question whether it is legally permissible to have a statement reference Wikipedia to the way inline images are displayed, so it might

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-07 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. Re Psychoslave: Having a statement in Wikidata with a reference, where the referenced work is not published under CC-0, is entirely fine in my understanding. As a comparison: Wikipedia has plenty of references, where the referenced work is not published under CC-BY-SA

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-07 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. Re Pintoch: No, I was seriously not aware that we are uploading datasets I think it is fair to say that this is not exactly an isolated case (but I am surprised that you seem (to pretend) not to know? Maybe for legal reasons?) No, no legal reasons, I really didn't know

Re: [Wikidata] Wikiata and the LOD cloud

2018-05-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thanks! On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:36 PM Lucas Werkmeister < lucas.werkmeis...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Folks, I’m already in contact with John, there’s no need to contact him > again :) > > Cheers, Lucas > > Am Mo., 7. Mai 2018 um 19:32 Uhr schrieb Denny Vrandečić

Re: [Wikidata] Wikiata and the LOD cloud

2018-05-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
adding John to this thread - although I know he already knows about this request - and I am asking officially to enter Wikidata into the LOD diagram. Let's keep it all open, and see where it goes from here. Cheers, Denny On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 4:15 AM Sebastian Hellmann < hellm...@informatik.uni-le

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-04 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. The property is about adding the RNSR ID. That's fine. On the data import hub page you linked, I don't see a mention of the license. Nor on your talk page. I find this upload problematic.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-04 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. I don't know the Open License. Given what I understand using automatic translation, the license requires attribution. So if the RNSR is a database in the sense of the Database Right directive, and if the RNSR is licensed under the Open License, and if the Open License

Re: [Wikidata] Wikiata and the LOD cloud

2018-05-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I'm pretty sure that Wikidata is doing better than 90% of the current bubbles in the diagram. If they wanted to have Wikidata in the diagram it would have been there before it was too small to read it. :) On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 7:47 AM Peter F. Patel-Schneider < pfpschnei...@gmail.com> wrote: >

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-04 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. @Psychoslave, I am not sure I entirely follow. You said "there are contributors of Wikidata that do make massive imports of external data banks, regardless of the corresponding terms of use." Then you refer to an email on a closed list that I cannot acces

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T193728: Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-03 Thread Denny
Denny added a comment. You state that "there are contributors of Wikidata that do make massive imports of external data banks, regardless of the corresponding terms of use." Can you point to such imports? In my opinion, we should treat such license issues on Wikidata as seriou

Re: [Wikidata-tech] Wikidata + GraphQL

2018-01-03 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That's great! I was having the same thought, but was thinking on top of the SPARQL interface - but if it works on top of the API even better. Thanks for that, this might be quite interesting. I really hope that it can integrated into Wikidata proper. On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 9:12 AM Thomas

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread Denny Vrandečić
in the choice of a license in order to avoid unintended consequences. Just food for thought Denny On Thu, Nov 30, 2017, 20:51 John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > My reference was to in-place discussions at WMDE, not the open meetings > with Markus. Each week we had an open demo

Re: [Wikidata] Coordinate precision in Wikidata, RDF & query service

2017-08-31 Thread Denny Vrandečić
And thanks for the use cases. This helps a lot with thinking about this. On Thu, Aug 31, 2017, 16:31 Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> wrote: > The reason why we save the actual value with more digits than the > precision (and why we keep the precision as an explicit

Re: [Wikidata] Coordinate precision in Wikidata, RDF & query service

2017-08-31 Thread Denny Vrandečić
The reason why we save the actual value with more digits than the precision (and why we keep the precision as an explicit value at all) is because the value could be entered and displayed either as decimal digits or in minutes and seconds. So internally one would save 20' as 0.3, but the

Re: [Wikidata] Wordnet synset ID

2017-08-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2581. This property has been > very > > little used: http://tinyurl.com/y8npwsm5 > > > > There might be a Wikimedia-Wordnet indirect link through BabelNet > > > > /Finn > > > > > > On 08/15/2017 0

Re: [Wikidata] Wordnet synset ID

2017-08-15 Thread Denny Vrandečić
we have a BabelNet Wikidata property, > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2581. This property has been > very little used: http://tinyurl.com/y8npwsm5 > > There might be a Wikimedia-Wordnet indirect link through BabelNet > > /Finn > > > On 08/15/2017 07:22 PM, Denny

Re: [Wikidata] Wordnet synset ID

2017-08-15 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That's a great question, I have no idea what the answer will turn out to be. Is there any current link between Wiktionary and WordNet? Or WordNet and Wikipedia? On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:14 AM wrote: > > > I have proposed a Wordnet synset property here: >

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata more prominent in Apple's IOS 11 beta

2017-07-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Chris, thanks. That's cute cute ultimately disappointing - I would have preferred for it to take me to "other people with this death place", which would be more interesting. Ah well, thanks on answering, Denny On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:48 AM Chris Koerner <nob...@gmail.com>

Re: [Wikidata] Wiki PageID

2017-05-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Aren't both ... uhm ... "use cases" supported by dbpedia proper anyway? On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:40 AM Kingsley Idehen wrote: > On 5/3/17 3:37 PM, Nicholas Humfrey wrote: > > > > On 26/04/2017, 15:41, "Wikidata on behalf of Kingsley Idehen" > >

Re: [Wikidata] Languages in Wikidata4Wiktionary

2017-04-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Daniel, I agree, but isn't that what Multilingual Text requires? A language code? I.e. how does the current model plan to solve that? I assume most of it is hidden behind mini-wizards like "Create a new lexeme", which actually make sure the multitext language and the language property are

Re: [Wikidata] Languages in Wikidata4Wiktionary

2017-04-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
So assume we enter a new Lexeme in Examplarian (which has a Q-Item), but Examplarian has no language code for whatever reason. What language code would they enter in the MultilingualTextValue? On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:42 AM Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Tobias' comment

Re: [Wikidata] Languages in Wikidata4Wiktionary

2017-04-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Scott, I assume you realized that the article by Norvig you cited was rather intentionally published on April 1st. Cheers, Denny On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:04 AM Scott MacLeod < worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com> wrote: > I tried to see how the ISO codes and IANA language subtag

Re: [Wikidata] Languages in Wikidata4Wiktionary

2017-04-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
On Thu, Apr 6, 2017, 16:16 Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > - use Q-Items instead of UserLanguageCodes for Multilingual texts (which > > would be quite a migration) > > I foresee that might be a bit of a problem for external tools consuming > this data - how they would

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata ontology

2017-01-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I agree with Peter here. Daniel's statement of "Anything that is a subclass of X, and at the same an instance of Y, where Y is not "class", is problematic." is simply too strong. The classical example is Harry the eagle, and eagle being a species. The following paper has a much more measured and

Re: [Wikidata] I'm calling it. We made it ;-)

2017-01-01 Thread Denny Vrandečić
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/899/mission_accomplished.jpg On Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 02:58 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Folks, > > We're now officially mainstream ;-) > >

Re: [Wikidata-tech] Two questions about Lexeme Modeling

2016-11-24 Thread Denny Vrandečić
and a better scientifically supported data model outweigh this. I hope that makes sense, Giving thanks, Denny On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 3:28 AM Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Am 22.11.2016 um 10:19 schrieb David Cuenca Tudela: > >> There are many many w

Re: [Wikidata] New Status Indicator Icon about Relative Page Completeness

2016-11-15 Thread Denny Vrandečić
*not On Tue, Nov 15, 2016, 10:06 Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do you make sure but to request the place of death or date of death on > living people? I.e. can we filter certain properties? > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016, 07:20 Simon Razniewski <sraz

Re: [Wikidata] New Status Indicator Icon about Relative Page Completeness

2016-11-15 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Do you make sure but to request the place of death or date of death on living people? I.e. can we filter certain properties? On Tue, Nov 15, 2016, 07:20 Simon Razniewski wrote: > On November 15, 2016, csara...@uni-koblenz.de wrote > > It would be very interesting to see the

[Wikidata-tech] Wikidata deving and vagrant

2016-11-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi all, I set up a vagrant environment to do some hacking on Wikibase, but the wikidata role seems to create a client only? Is there a role for the server? Cheers, Denny ___ Wikidata-tech mailing list Wikidata-tech@lists.wikimedia.org https

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