Scott, I assume you realized that the article by Norvig you cited was rather intentionally published on April 1st.
Cheers, Denny On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:04 AM Scott MacLeod < worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com> wrote: > I tried to see how the ISO codes and IANA language subtags compare with > Glottolog's 8,444 entries under languages ( > http://glottolog.org/glottolog/language) and Ethnologue's 7,099 living > languages (https://www.ethnologue.com/), but couldn't find any > comparisons or comparative lists. > > Will it be possible with these new developments in Wikidata to query for > these possibilities, and leave the options open for a growing list of > languages, as well as an universal translator? > > And how will invented languages be added, such as Krell, Elvish and > Klingon (and even other species' languages in emergent interspecies' > communications), and possibly per OpenNMT (Neural Machine Translation) - > http://opennmt.net/ (and possibly GNMT); see also Peter Norvig's recent > article in the regards to OpenNMT and invented languages - > https://medium.com/@peternorvig/last-tweets-of-the-krell-82b8cb74c320 (and > per > http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/04/falco-peregrinus-smartphone-that-could.html > ). > > Scott > > > > On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Daniel Kinzler < > daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > > Am 07.04.2017 um 01:34 schrieb Denny Vrandečić: > > I foresee that might be a bit of a problem for external tools > consuming > > this data - how they would figure out what language it is if it's > > doesn't have a code? We could of course generate fake codes like > > mis-x-q12345, maybe that would work. > > > > Q-items for languages already have a property to state their language > code. It's > > just an extra hop away. > > We want ISO codes (or rather, IANA language subtags [1]), so we can use > them in > HTML lang attributes, and in RDF literals. This allows interoperability > with > standard tools. > > For this reason, I also favor a mixed approach, that allows standard > language > tags to be used whenever possible. I have some ideas on how that could > work, but > no definite plan yet. > > Something like de+Q1980305 could work; when generating HTML or RDF, we'd > just > drop the suffix. For transligual entries (e.g. the for number symbol i), we > could use e.g. mis+Q1140046. > > > [1] > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry > > -- > Daniel Kinzler > Principal Platform Engineer > > Wikimedia Deutschland > Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > > > -- > > -- > - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President > - World University and School > - http://worlduniversityandschool.org > > - 415 480 4577 <(415)%20480-4577> > - http://scottmacleod.com > > > - CC World University and School - like CC Wikipedia with best > STEM-centric CC OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and > school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational > organization. > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: This transmission and any attachments are intended only > for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed and may > contain information that is privileged, confidential, or exempt from > disclosure under applicable federal or state laws. If the reader of this > transmission is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that > any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, > please notify me immediately by email or telephone. > > World University and School is sending you this because of your interest > in free, online, higher education. If you don't want to receive these, > please reply with 'unsubscribe' in the body of the email, leaving the > subject line intact. Thank you. >
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