Re: [Wikidata-l] Query generator spreadsheet

2015-03-10 Thread Magnus Manske
Nice! One could even display the results in the spreadsheet, using this: http://blog.fastfedora.com/projects/import-json (haven't tried, though) Note that there is a proper Wikidata graph database being developed by WMF. Once that reaches production, WDQ will likely become a wrapper around that

Re: [Wikidata-l] Query generator spreadsheet

2015-03-10 Thread Navino Evans
Cheers Fabian, Magnus! Just had a quick look at the import-json function - looks pretty awesome :-) I probably won't be able to resist using it to make a mark-II mock up at some point. Thanks for the heads up about the upcoming Wikidata graph database, I was aware that was in the pipeline.

[Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ] I was throwing around ideas with a friend about how OpenStreetMap could be integrated with Wikidata. The thing that I care the most in any software is internationalization. Having a map in which all labels of towns,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Query generator spreadsheet

2015-03-10 Thread Navino Evans
That's good to know. Looking forward to playing around with it when there's a test server up and running. Best, Navino On 10 March 2015 at 13:28, Markus Kroetzsch markus.kroetz...@tu-dresden.de wrote: On 10.03.2015 14:15, Navino Evans wrote: Cheers Fabian, Magnus! Just had a quick look at

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 10.03.2015 um 14:31 schrieb Amir E. Aharoni: If it's way too much, how can this be bridged, or federated, or whatever the current popular word is? I don't even know exactly how does OSM store labels and translations now, but it sounds like another instance of Wikibase, if not Wikidata

Re: [Wikidata-l] Query generator spreadsheet

2015-03-10 Thread Markus Kroetzsch
On 10.03.2015 14:15, Navino Evans wrote: Cheers Fabian, Magnus! Just had a quick look at the import-json function - looks pretty awesome :-) I probably won't be able to resist using it to make a mark-II mock up at some point. Thanks for the heads up about the upcoming Wikidata graph database,

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-10 Thread Markus Bärlocher
Hi Thad, I helped with the Lighthouses schema in Freebase. :-) We have imported the LoL into OSM (40'000 lights), and show them on OpenSeaMap: http://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=13lat=54.47933lon=10.27177layers=BFTFFFTFFTF0 It would be great to have a popup in the chart which shows: -

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Jo
What about bus stops? Jo 2015-03-10 15:37 GMT+01:00 aude aude.w...@gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi, [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ] I was throwing around ideas with a friend about

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread aude
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi, [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ] I was throwing around ideas with a friend about how OpenStreetMap could be integrated with Wikidata. The thing that I care the

[Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

2015-03-10 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Hi all, I'm a relative newcommer to Wikidata but long time OpenStreetMap contributor. Recently OpenStreetMap has a situation where large numbers of translated names have been added to OSM objects. When asked about the origin of these names, I've been told a number of places, one of which is

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Romaine Wiki
Maybe we should ask the question how many translations already are in OpenStreetMap that can be used/added to Wikidata? Romaine 2015-03-10 14:31 GMT+01:00 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il: Hi, [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ] I was throwing

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Luca Martinelli
2015-03-10 17:10 GMT+01:00 Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de: Am 10.03.2015 um 16:54 schrieb Luca Martinelli: 2015-03-10 16:28 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com: What would this new Wikibase have that OpenStreetMap doesn't already have? The possibility of talking with WMF

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-10 Thread Tom Morris
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: For example, you can see that Portugal has a lot of lighthouses while Spain has almost none -- maybe we need to look at our data there ;-) Perhaps it's a language confusion issue, but does Spain really

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Dbpedia-discussion] DBpedia-based RDF dumps for Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Tom Morris
Dimitris, Soren, and DBpedia team, That sounds like an interesting project, but I got lost between the statement of intent, below, and the practical consequences: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Dimitris Kontokostas kontokos...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de wrote: we made some different design

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Cristian Consonni
Hi Amir, 2015-03-10 14:31 GMT+01:00 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il: [ Aude and Christian Consonni, this should especially interest you. ] :-) Luca already posted the link that summarizes my idea about Wikidata and OSM. 2015-03-10 17:38 GMT+01:00 Luca Martinelli

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Janko Mihelić
I am an avid OpenStreetMap user, and I like the Wikidata project very much. That's why I proposed a OSM tag wikidata=* and I wasn't the only one to think of this[1]. Making a wikidata element for every or some OSM elements is not quite possible, at least for now. OSM objects don't have constant

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-10 Thread Thad Guidry
I helped with the Lighthouses schema in Freebase. Some of which is based on List of Lights (NGA) USA. I have DB conversion data for the PDFs...just never got around to loading them all in. Let me know if I can help. Thad +ThadGuidry https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Luca Martinelli
2015-03-10 15:08 GMT+01:00 Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de: Am 10.03.2015 um 14:31 schrieb Amir E. Aharoni: If it's way too much, how can this be bridged, or federated, or whatever the current popular word is? I don't even know exactly how does OSM store labels and translations

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 March 2015 at 13:31, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: I was throwing around ideas with a friend about how OpenStreetMap could be integrated with Wikidata. I and others have done a lot of work on this already: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Susanna Ånäs
I have been fostering the idea of Wikidata as a historical gazetteer, a place (name) index. Wikidata would be capable of modelling how streets change name or how municipalities are split or merged or link to changing geometries over time etc. Happy to hear this discussed! Susanna 2015-03-10

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Janko Mihelić
2015-03-10 16:19 GMT+01:00 Luca Martinelli martinellil...@gmail.com: A separate Wikibase instance that could serve both OSM and Wikivoyage, maybe? Might be useful for both to keep the data about shops, restaurants, hotels, commercial whatelses and whatnots in the same instance, but keeping

[Wikidata-l] 176k items matched to OSM (Re: OpenStreetMap + Wikidata)

2015-03-10 Thread James Heald
Hi Andy, The post last autumn said you had 176,000 items matched to OSM, a very large proportion of which (at least at that time) had no P31 instance of, but you had been able to deduce this from Wikipedia. Would it be possible to start loading Wikidata with that information -- ie complete

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2015-03-10 16:46, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Am 10.03.2015 um 16:32 schrieb Yaroslav M. Blanter: Hi Amir, anything which can be remotely considered as a tourist attraction, as well as shops, hotels, reataurants and such are withing the scope of Wikivoyage and thus of Wikidata. For streets, we

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2015-03-10 20:47, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 10 March 2015 at 15:32, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: For streets, we have now an approved bot task adding all Dutch streets on Wikidata Approved by whom? I foresee the majority of those being deleted as non- notable. By me as a

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Jo
If this is considered notable, I'd consider doing this for all streets in the Brussels region. I would add wikidata tags to all OSM objects involved (highway ways and associatedStreet relations) at the same time though. So if they'd get deleted once again on Wikidata, that would be quite a useless

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Thad Guidry
Think... BIGGER. Jo has the right idea... Linked Data. It sounds to me like the right way forward for domain specific interest data (like OSM) ...is, Instead of 1 source of data (Wikidata)...and throwing domain specific interest data into Wikidata (not all data needs to live inside it). Just

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 March 2015 at 15:32, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: For streets, we have now an approved bot task adding all Dutch streets on Wikidata Approved by whom? I foresee the majority of those being deleted as non- notable. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 March 2015 at 20:20, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On 2015-03-10 20:47, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 10 March 2015 at 15:32, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: For streets, we have now an approved bot task adding all Dutch streets on Wikidata Approved by whom? I

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2015-03-10 22:51, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 10 March 2015 at 20:20, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On 2015-03-10 20:47, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 10 March 2015 at 15:32, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: For streets, we have now an approved bot task adding all Dutch

Re: [Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

2015-03-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 10.03.2015 17:09, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Am 10.03.2015 um 16:55 schrieb Markus Krötzsch: Hi Serge, The short answer to this is that the purpose of aliases in Wikidata is to help searching for items, and nothing more. Aliases may include nicknames that are in no way official, and

Re: [Wikidata-l] Query generator spreadsheet

2015-03-10 Thread Fabian Tompsett
Great work, Navino! I agree, using google docs for the prototype is a really good way of getting something started all the best Fabian Tompsett, Volunteer Support Organiser, Wikimedia UK, Address: 56-64 Leonard St, Shoreditch, London EC2A 4LT Phone:020 7065 0990 *Mobile: *07840 455 746