Re: [Wikidata-l] Who to talk to about integrating WolrCat Library Records in Wikidata

2012-05-31 Thread JFC Morfin
http://scholar.google.com/intl/en/scholar/citations.html At 08:39 31/05/2012, Dario Taraborelli wrote: Max et al, I'm glad your brought up this opportunity for wikidata to work with OCLC. An issue that I haven't seen adequately discussed on the list yet is how citation/source data is expecte

Re: [Wikidata-l] Hello from the YAGO team

2012-04-17 Thread JFC Morfin
At 17:32 17/04/2012, Dario Taraborelli wrote: Shall we create a Wikidata vs {Freebase, DBpedia, YAGO} comparison table on meta (or enwiki)? There's a lot of valuable information in this thread (and I was not familiar with YAGO ­ thanks Fabian) but it's hardly readable. We would do a huge favor

Re: [Wikidata-l] Hello from the YAGO team

2012-04-15 Thread JFC Morfin
At 17:18 15/04/2012, Fabian M. Suchanek wrote: The WWW conference is a scientific conference in computer science on the newest developments of the Web. It is in Lyon this year: http://www2012.wwwconference.org In Lyon: today and this week. Thank you for this detailed explanation. How do you se

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #1

2012-04-14 Thread JFC Morfin
At 13:44 13/04/2012, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64Heya folks :) I'll be doing weekly summaries of what's been happening around Wikidata. This is the first one. The plan is to collect them and then make a blog post out of them every month. Lydia, May be you could crea

Re: [Wikidata-l] Fwd: [Wiki-research-l] Wikidata opinion piece in The Atlantic

2012-04-13 Thread JFC Morfin
At 11:36 13/04/2012, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey, I've been following the usage of WikiData on twitter, and for the last week or so, more then half the tweets have been pointing to this article. Apparently people like to criticize :) To discuss something fundamental is not criticizing. This art

Re: [Wikidata-l] datawikis?

2012-04-09 Thread JFC Morfin
, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 4/8/12 9:25 PM, JFC Morfin wrote: Is there an objection to the concept of, or cooperation with, "datawiki" Wikidata compatible projects? I would define a "datawiki" (as there are databases) as a JSON oriented NoSQL DBMS using an enhanced wiki as a huma

Re: [Wikidata-l] Engine of Wikidata

2012-04-09 Thread JFC Morfin
At 11:55 09/04/2012, Soslan Khubulov wrote: The best thing would be to create new engine specially for structured data. It would be also better for Wikitionary. Just remember what was Mediawiki created for. Storing marked up text pages. Mediawiki is good for encyclopedia but not for Wikitionary

Re: [Wikidata-l] Engine of Wikidata

2012-04-09 Thread JFC Morfin
At 11:55 09/04/2012, Soslan Khubulov wrote: The best thing would be to create new engine specially for structured data. It would be also better for Wikitionary. Just remember what was Mediawiki created for. Storing marked up text pages. Mediawiki is good for encyclopedia but not for Wikitionary

Re: [Wikidata-l] datawikis?

2012-04-09 Thread JFC Morfin
immediately dessiminated or will be in stand-by somewhere until approved? jfc Thanks, Â Â Â Gerard On 9 April 2012 03:25, JFC Morfin <<mailto:jef...@jefsey.com>jef...@jefsey.com> wrote: Is there an objection to the concept of, or cooperation with, "datawiki" Wikidata

[Wikidata-l] datawikis?

2012-04-08 Thread JFC Morfin
Is there an objection to the concept of, or cooperation with, "datawiki" Wikidata compatible projects? I would define a "datawiki" (as there are databases) as a JSON oriented NoSQL DBMS using an enhanced wiki as a human user I/O interface. This would permit BigData, specialized data, and graph

Re: [Wikidata-l] SNAK -> assertion?

2012-04-06 Thread JFC Morfin
Binàris, then you should coin a crystal clear definition of snak (could it be made an acronym?) everyone can memorize and understand. Sounds also as snap and snag. If you find a pun it would help it get accepted. jfc At 10:39 06/04/2012, Bináris wrote: 2012/4/5 Gregor Hagedorn <

Re: [Wikidata-l] Industry, JTC1/ISO, W3C, IUse, Wikimedia - where are we ?

2012-04-06 Thread JFC Morfin
At 12:45 05/04/2012, Denny Vrandečić wrote: In short, we have for Wikidata two pragmatic goals: * Wikidata's first aim is to support the Wikipedias with their language links * Wikidata's second aim is to support the Wikipedias with the infoboxes Out of the support for these tasks, other intere

Re: [Wikidata-l] A common, open access, human and computer readable data pool for scientist

2012-04-05 Thread JFC Morfin
Lydia wrote: I would like that this project could serve in that manner the scientific community and provide standards for submission of data for scientist. Any plans in this direction? The en.wikipedia page on "big data" should give the answers, if it was kept current with the current "Big Dat

[Wikidata-l] Industry, JTC1/ISO, W3C, IUse, Wikimedia - where are we ?

2012-04-05 Thread JFC Morfin
At 17:20 04/04/2012, Stracke, Christian wrote: Dear all, I'm sorry bit "jfc" is mixing up different standards and committees (what is easy): Sorry for the confusion. The problem with ISO and ISO documents is that they are not documented on (i.e. interested in? i.e. interesting for?) Wikipedi

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata: New ISO Metadata standard MLR published last year

2012-04-04 Thread JFC Morfin
At 09:31 04/04/2012, Stracke, Christian wrote: Content-Language: de-DE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6A1084EB7982C249A73604731699E2B611309D2EWIWINFEXDAG01wi_" Dear Denny, thanks for your feedback: indeed you have to pay for the MLR standards (as it is the business model

Re: [Wikidata-l] Multilinguistics matters

2012-04-03 Thread JFC Morfin
Lydia, Thank you for your answers. They help us better understand your project. 2) Has this Wikidata project some Charter or terms of reference (TOR), or dedicated web site, you could give the URL? http://wikidata.org is > redirected to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page No Is one fores

Re: [Wikidata-l] Notability in Wikidata

2012-04-02 Thread JFC Morfin
Binaris, Oren, At 13:43 02/04/2012, Oren Bochman wrote: WikiData's mandate appears to be to improve en.Wikipedia (and then the other WMF projects). If WikiData cannot serve the needs of en.wikipedia it will be of little consequence to the other projects since it will need a community to mainta

Re: [Wikidata-l] Archiving references for facts?

2012-04-01 Thread JFC Morfin
At 00:46 02/04/2012, John Erling Blad wrote: US users can use archive.org, but foreigners might get into troubles. Remember that wikipedia/-data isn't US only. Both (?) Archive.org and webcitation removes conten on request, it shall be some tricks to automate it for catalog

Re: [Wikidata-l] Multilinguistics matters

2012-04-01 Thread JFC Morfin
Dear Lydia, Hmmm I have to confess I don't understand this completely and therefor can't give you an answer. Could you give me an example of what you are talking about and how you see Wikidata fit in? Hmmm :-) I am somewhat at loss here. Let start from some basic, then. 1) is there a conci

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data model (RDF)

2012-03-31 Thread JFC Morfin
At 11:17 31/03/2012, Jakob Voss wrote: JFC Morfin wrote: > 2. Since we have a W3C expert: what is the best document/book to get > a comprehensive and clear (not too massive) documentation on the > semantic web? You surely don't want to know all about semantic web - especially the

[Wikidata-l] Multilinguistics matters

2012-03-31 Thread JFC Morfin
Lydia, I have a question. I am interested in "multilinguistics". I define multilinguistics as the cybernetics of the mecalanguages, i.e. the operational, computer applications and strategic pragmatic coexistence of natural (and artificial) languages that can be used between man/man/machine/m

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data model (RDF)

2012-03-30 Thread JFC Morfin
At 15:12 30/03/2012, Ivan Herman wrote: > 2. Since we have a W3C expert: what is the best document/book to get a comprehensive and clear (not too massive) documentation on the semantic web? > The one which is probably closest to what WikiData would need is "Linked Data: Evolving the Web into

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data model (RDF)

2012-03-28 Thread JFC Morfin
At 18:10 28/03/2012, Ivan Herman wrote: Obviously, you all expect me to agree with Martynas, in view of my job, and I do:-). But I do not only because I work for W3C, but I indeed genuinely believe that reinventing things here may be way too costly on long term... Note also that W3C may start

Re: [Wikidata-l] TREC KBA - Mining Content Streams to Recommend Page Updates to Editors

2012-03-19 Thread JFC Morfin
At 02:28 19/03/2012, John R. Frank wrote: Data Wikipedians, The talk submission below explains my interest in structuring wikipedia for interaction with machines, so consider it my introduction to this list. I hope WikiData will provide a foundation for KBA-type algorithms (see below), and am

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata submissions for Wikimania

2012-03-18 Thread JFC Morfin
At 10:49 18/03/2012, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Jan_Ku=E8era?= wrote: Sorry for biting, but life taught me WMF is a big black hole for money, ideas and latedy also for participation... not giving a shi* at all about its editors... I simply do not trust anything new since some time ago. May this project be an

[Wikidata-l] early bird

2012-03-10 Thread JFC Morfin
http://domainincite.com/ntia-says-icann-does-not-meet-the-requirements-for-iana-renewal/ This information will most probably affect the New gTLD Project and open new possibilities to Google+ and to the emergence of the Internet+. This may help the experimentation of ".wiki" and lead to an open