In contrast to a statement on the candidate's user page, the candidate does
not a hav a sterling record of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NPA . The
motion might involve renaming my account and finding the candidate guilty of
a personal attack, which about five administrators trusted and support
On 8/19/09, Carcharoth wrote:
> Does anyone else get annoyed by certain hatlinks?
I don't see the problem here. Be bold and remove crap, whether
pointless hatnotes or anything else.
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2009/8/21 Tony Sidaway :
> On 8/19/09, Carcharoth wrote:
>> Does anyone else get annoyed by certain hatlinks?
> I don't see the problem here. Be bold and remove crap, whether
> pointless hatnotes or anything else.
It's an editorial issue. The two-item disambig is one workaround,
though more t
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:40 AM, Tony Sidaway wrote:
> On 8/19/09, Carcharoth wrote:
>> Does anyone else get annoyed by certain hatlinks?
>
> I don't see the problem here. Be bold and remove crap, whether
> pointless hatnotes or anything else.
They are not pointless. Usually some form of disambi
David Gerard wrote:
> 2009/8/21 Tony Sidaway :
>
>> On 8/19/09, Carcharoth wrote:
>>
>
>
>>> Does anyone else get annoyed by certain hatlinks?
>>>
>
>
>> I don't see the problem here. Be bold and remove crap, whether
>> pointless hatnotes or anything else.
>>
>
>
> It's
"Carcharoth" wrote in message
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(snip)
> I am impressed, though, that we have this article:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_the_plankton
(...)
When you hav a body of water as big as the ocean, and it is fed by rivers,
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> 2009/8/19 stevertigo :
>> Ray Saintonge wrote:
>
>>> It boggles the mind to imagine what Pol Pot would have done
>>>with a nuclear facility; he could have outdone his relative, Stew Pot.
>
>> Ah.
http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/08/plos-reinvents-publishing-and-saves.html
http://www.plos.org/cms/node/480
http://knol.google.com/k/plos/plos-currents-influenza/28qm4w0q65e4w/1%23#
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One message someone rejected was about words for cluebot to eat. Maybe that
should go to tech, and only tech. It certainly would help if I got rejection
notices that were not botic. I do not find moderation notices very helpful,
because it actually encourages me to get beyond ten on a one day a
So Google Knol moves into hosting? Will there be ads?
Charles
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2009/8/21 quiddity :
> For example, we have these pages, that are variously explicating,
> disambiguation, and listing:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_(disambiguation)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_water
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:W
List-class articles are lowest on the scale of quality.
Going up in rank, it is "list, stub, start, b-class, good article, feature
candidate, and once featured.
They are still useful for maintenance if you are, for instance, cribbing
notability from lists of award-winners.
And even for users who
Lists are something different from articles.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_lists
Carcharoth
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Jay
Litwyn wrote:
> List-class articles are lowest on the scale of quality.
> Going up in rank, it is "list, stub, start, b-class, good article, fe
2009/8/21 Jay Litwyn :
> One message someone rejected was about words for cluebot to eat. Maybe that
> should go to tech, and only tech.
Cluebot has nothing to do with the tech team, it is run by an
individual volunteer. The Cluebot user account talk page is the best
place to make recommendations
"Sage Ross" wrote in message
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> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
>
>>
>> The exact details of what to ask and how many levels to request are
>> configurable.
>>
>
> Is there a page to discuss the configuration(
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 07:31:51AM -0600, Jay Litwyn wrote:
> "Sage Ross" wrote in message
> news:40c6a93a0908201411w75a700derc9a07759fd9d7...@mail.gmail.com...
> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The exact details of what to ask and how many levels to request a
2009/8/20 Sage Ross :
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
>
>>
>> The exact details of what to ask and how many levels to request are
>> configurable.
>>
>
> Is there a page to discuss the configuration(s) of ReaderFeedback?
>
> I notice the test wiki has the categories "Usefulne
2009/8/21 Thomas Dalton :
> 2009/8/20 Sage Ross :
>> I notice the test wiki has the categories "Usefulness",
>> "Presentation", and "Neutrality", while the extension documentation
>> uses four example categories, "Reliability", "Completeness", "NPOV",
>> and "Presentation". I hope something more
"David Gerard" wrote in message
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> 2009/8/20 Carcharoth :
>
>> That is why I am saying that it is best to have a neutral form for
>> hatnotes:
>> "For other things with this name, see (disambiguation)".
>> Or whatever the st
2009/8/20 Sage Ross :
> Is there a page to discuss the configuration(s) of ReaderFeedback?
The intent is to set up
http://readerfeedback.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page with a bit
more introductory text and then get the word out to start a
conversation about the rating criteria we want to use fo
How does this differ from the talk page assessments? If this is meant
only for readers-who-don't-edit, then you will have to tell editors
that, as there will be some editors that try and skew the feedback for
a particular article.
Carcharoth
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
>
2009/8/21 Carcharoth :
> How does this differ from the talk page assessments? If this is meant
> only for readers-who-don't-edit, then you will have to tell editors
> that, as there will be some editors that try and skew the feedback for
> a particular article.
* People are used to "rate this ar
"David Gerard" wrote in message
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> 2009/8/21 Thomas Dalton :
>> 2009/8/20 Sage Ross :
>
>>> I notice the test wiki has the categories "Usefulness",
>>> "Presentation", and "Neutrality", while the extension documentation
>>> uses f
2009/8/21 Erik Moeller :
> 2009/8/20 Sage Ross :
>> Is there a page to discuss the configuration(s) of ReaderFeedback?
>
> The intent is to set up
> http://readerfeedback.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page with a bit
> more introductory text and then get the word out to start a
> conversation about
Jay Litwyn wrote:
> "Sage Ross" wrote
>
>> Is there a page to discuss the configuration(s) of ReaderFeedback?
>> I notice the test wiki has the categories "Usefulness",
>> "Presentation", and "Neutrality", while the extension documentation
>> uses four example categories, "Reliability", "Compl
Perhaps the ratings system should only let readers remove a template,
then send them a welcome message (to an IP#, no less) that transcludes
the template of their expertise, and encourages them to follow the links in
it,
and by those actions encourage them to ensure that their rating is even
more
2009/8/21 Ray Saintonge :
> What's so bad about encouraging howto information? I'm sure that a lot
> of people would find such practical information very useful.
Sure, it would be very useful, but it isn't within Wikipedia's scope.
Perhaps a new WikiHowTo project? (Several such projects already e
If I write "Motion denied," can we close this thread?
Newyorkbrad
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Jay Litwyn wrote:
> In my own interests, I won't. I already brought the motion before the
> candidate, and one of the witnesses to my motion blocked me from
> unblock-en-l for bringing it before t
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Newyorkbrad
(Wikipedia) wrote:
> If I write "Motion denied," can we close this thread?
>
> Newyorkbrad
Only if you deny it '*with extreme predjudice*'.
And then jump on top of the podium and begin machine-gunning down Congressmen.
--
gwern
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In a message dated 8/21/2009 10:40:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
gwe...@gmail.com writes:
> Only if you deny it '*with extreme predjudice*'.
>
> And then jump on top of the podium and begin machine-gunning down
> Congressmen.>>
> -
While wearing a prom dress.
W.J.
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> In a message dated 8/21/2009 10:40:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> gwe...@gmail.com writes:
>
>
> > Only if you deny it '*with extreme predjudice*'.
> >
> > And then jump on top of the podium and begin machine-gunning down
> > Congressmen.>>
> > -
>
> While wearing a pr
>> While wearing a prom dress.
Why not a wedding dress?
Emily
On Aug 21, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Risker wrote:
> 2009/8/21
>
>> In a message dated 8/21/2009 10:40:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> gwe...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>
>>> Only if you deny it '*with extreme predjudice*'.
>>>
>>> And then jump
In a message dated 8/21/2009 11:45:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
bluecalioc...@me.com writes:
>
> Why not a wedding dress?>>
> -
You may be too young to remember that it was the "Homecoming Queen" whose
"Got A Gun" "I did it... for Johnny!"
Will Johnson
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, stevertigo wrote:
> Right. Its not about the number of clicks, or even the presence of
> alternative linkages - its about the odd and irritating addition of
> links to trivial topics at the top of substantive articles (hence the
> term "trivial disambiguation" or "trivial other
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Andrew Gray wrote:
> 2009/8/21 quiddity :
>
>> For example, we have these pages, that are variously explicating,
>> disambiguation, and listing:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_(disambiguation)
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w
wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
> bluecalioc...@me.com writes:
>
>> Why not a wedding dress?>>
>> -
>>
> You may be too young to remember that it was the "Homecoming Queen" whose
> "Got A Gun" "I did it... for Johnny!"
>
I thought that the idea of shotgun weddings was much olde
2009/8/21 Ken Arromdee :
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, stevertigo wrote:
>> Right. Its not about the number of clicks, or even the presence of
>> alternative linkages - its about the odd and irritating addition of
>> links to trivial topics at the top of substantive articles (hence the
>> term "trivial d
2009/8/21 Jay Litwyn :
> "David Gerard" wrote in message
>> For the now-largely-abandoned article validation feature, here's a
>> suggested list:
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/En_validation_topics#Consolidated_plan
>> The list there is:
> The whole thing, methinks would be on a RATE tab. "Wh
"David Gerard" wrote in message
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> 2009/8/21 Jay Litwyn :
>> "David Gerard" wrote in message
>
>>> For the now-largely-abandoned article validation feature, here's a
>>> suggested list:
>>> http://meta.wikimedia.o
The "Homecoming Queen's Got A Gun" is a song about how she gunned down
a bunch of people at a celebration. It's not about being pregnant and
your father making your boyfriend marry you. So I thought it was much
more appropriate for the thread.
-Original Message-
From: Ray Saintonge
"Thomas Dalton" wrote in message
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> 2009/8/21 Ray Saintonge :
>> What's so bad about encouraging howto information? I'm sure that a lot
>> of people would find such practical information very useful.
>
> Sure, it would be very use
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Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions
"Thomas Dalton" wrote in message
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> 2009/8/21 Ray Saintonge :
>> Wh
Subject-Was: Annoying Hatnotes
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moons_of_Uranus&diff=286959877&oldid=286242780
Jeremy Hester is at least 161 years old, and probably still fighting for
attribution.
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2009/8/22 :
> Jay you seem to be under the assumption that Wikia is a sister.
> It might be more appropriate to call Wikia your father's new wife or
> your first cousin from that part of your family that your family
> doesn't talk to anymore.
I agree with you that Wikia isn't a sister project, al
> You may be too young to remember that it was the "Homecoming Queen"
> whose "Got A Gun" "I did it... for Johnny!"
Yeah, I didn't get that at all.
Emily
On Aug 21, 2009, at 4:01 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 8/21/2009 11:45:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> bluecalioc...@m
Thomas you need some new word to describe the relationship.
We have sister projects. Wikisource for example, wikiquote, etc.
The Wikia domains or subdomains represent something a bit more removed.
Can we call them half-sister projects? Step-sister? What would you
propose.
-Original Messag
"'Put down your gun and tiara and come out of the float!'"
"The cops fired a warning shot that blew her off the float.
"I tried to scream 'duck', but it stuck in my throat.
"She hit the ground and did a flip; it was so acrobatic,
"But I was crying so hard I couldn't work my Instamatic."
Newyorkbr
Headdesk
-- Sent from my Palm Pre
Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) wrote:
"'Put down your gun and tiara and come out of the float!'"
"The cops fired a warning shot that blew her off the float.
"I tried to scream 'duck', but it stuck in my throat.
"She hit the ground and did a flip; it was so acrobati
2009/8/22 :
> Thomas you need some new word to describe the relationship.
> We have sister projects. Wikisource for example, wikiquote, etc.
> The Wikia domains or subdomains represent something a bit more removed.
> Can we call them half-sister projects? Step-sister? What would you
> propose.
L
"Gosh, my best friend's on a shooting spree!
"Stop it, Debbie, you're EMBARRASSING me!"
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:55 PM, kgnp...@gmail.com wrote:
> Headdesk
>
> -- Sent from my Palm Pre
> Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) wrote:
>
> "'Put down your gun and tiara and come out of the float!'"
>
>
>
> "The
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:01 PM, wrote:
> You may be too young to remember that it was the "Homecoming Queen" whose
> "Got A Gun" "I did it... for Johnny!"
>
> Will Johnson
Johnny? Like, who's Johnny?
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As much as I like a good chuckle from time to time, this has gone overboard.
This joke is dead. Stone dead. It's not responding to the offered
cuttlefish, and didn't even wiggle when we hit the cage. Its nine
o'clock wakeup call has come and gone without signs of response. It's
not just stunne
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