[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-24 Thread aketon
Hello again, Thank you to everyone that has provided valuable feedback. Moving forward, we will articulate and follow the best practices that emerge from these important discussions and our corresponding review of the attendant policies, procedures, and practices. Developing a more clear and con

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-24 Thread Florence Devouard
I believe Jan-Bart post reflect my perspective on the topic. I second. Florence PS: I will point out though... for historical perspective, that a rather similar situation happened in the early years of the WMF, when Eric Moeller chose to resign from his position as board member to be hired b

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-24 Thread Philip Kopetzky
Hi SJ! The 12 month waiting/cooldown period is something that was implemented in the Good Governance Kodex of Wikimedia Austria in 2014, see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_%C3%96sterreich/Good_Governance_Kodex, with an independent committee consisting of a staff, board and community rep

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-24 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi everyone, I feel the asynchronous discussion prevents from a meaningful discussion to happen. Given the situation, I feel it would be appropriate for the board and the general counsel, who is the executive responsible for governance (and seems to be the person at the top of this reporting line

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Update on Croatian Wikipedia evaluation

2021-06-24 Thread Željko Blaće
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 10:45 PM Željko Blaće wrote: > > Thank you for publishing this, but in all honesty it feels as a bit > too little too late. > > After a quick reading of the summary I am somewhat disappointed that > the investigation commissioned by WMF was so reductive in presenting > the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-24 Thread Chris Keating
> > > >> It is a good practice to create a 12 month waiting period before board >> members of non-profits can become a staff member/paid contractor/consultant. >> > > A few people mentioned that their own orgs or committees have norms or > policies around this (Chris, Philip, Tito); could you descr

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-24 Thread Adam Wight
It's nice to read that chapters have been encouraged to tighten up their governance, avoiding conflicts of interest and so on. But before we pile onto this one issue, can we please step back and look at the Wikimedia Foundation itself? Technically, none of its Board members are elected. This is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-24 Thread Samuel Klein
Jan-Bart: Spot on. It is always uplifting to see one of your measured notes come over the wire. Jan-Bart de Vreede writes: > The Foundation is supposed to be an example of good Governance for our > entire movement. We (as a movement) have come a long way in the past 20 > years (and that is impo

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-24 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hey So with all due respect and sympathy for the individuals involved and me being unwilling to hurt people I feel it would be worse for me just keep quiet. The Foundation is supposed to be an example of good Governance for our entire movement. We (as a movement) have come a long way in the pas

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-24 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Amanda, Thanks for the detailed comments. However, still, this doesn't really help that much. >From your email it seems that over several months the WMF has created a new role which just happens to be ideal for its outgoing Chair to fill, and indeed could scarcely be filled by anyone else beca