[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread Maggie Dennis
Hello, all. Following up on Amanda because she mentioned that we were going to hold an open meeting to discuss this. I just announced the details in a separate email thread titled "Tuesday Foundation office hour." They are also available on Meta, here

[Wikimedia-l] Tuesday Foundation office hour

2021-06-25 Thread Maggie Dennis
Hello, all. Apologies for the rather late Friday notice. We had hoped to get details on this out earlier today, but it has taken rather all day for us to get the technical details ironed out! *** The Wikimedia Foundation is hosting an office hour featuring Chief Financial Officer Jaime Villagome

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Appropriate promotion OR Appropriate canvassing protocol/policy

2021-06-25 Thread Risker
Speaking personally only, I'd prefer not to have candidate statements or self-promotion on this mailing list, although I'd be fine if candidates announced their candidacy and gave a link to their statements on Meta. We have to keep in mind that the majority of potential voters do not read this mai

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread Kunal Mehta
Hi, On 6/25/21 12:58 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: Some precedents: ~ As Florence noted, in 2007, Erik made a similar transition.  (A bit contentious; there was a long internal-l thread). And on Foundation-l

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread Samuel Klein
¹ OK, the existence of the Good Governance Kodex, and its Good Governance Gremium , may be the best thing I learned all day. Thank you, WMAT! Some precedents: ~ As Florence noted, in 2007, Erik made a similar transition. (A bit contentious;

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Appropriate promotion OR Appropriate canvassing protocol/policy

2021-06-25 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 3:05 AM টিটো দত্ত Tito Dutta wrote: > In such a situation there is a possibility that if a candidate has many > social media or contacts and friends (Wimimedian), they will end up getting > more votes than someone who entirely relied on their nomination and > performance.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
"It also concerns me that the WMF were *not* aware of Community & affiliate norms in this field - what level of oversight of affiliate governance is occurring that there being significant affiliates with provisions like this not be known?" This is a question I would really like to be answered. For

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Appropriate promotion OR Appropriate canvassing protocol/policy

2021-06-25 Thread টিটো দত্ত Tito Dutta
Greetings, Thanks for your message. Not that particular link, but the promotion/canvassing policy/protocol and the concept behind it may be relevant. I believe it is important to work on a behavioral guideline for major elections and similar processes. In a few other languages it may be seen here:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread nosebagbear
Hi Amanda, [Apologies if accidental double-post] "Moving forward, we will articulate and follow the best practices that emerge from these important discussions and our corresponding review of the attendant policies, procedures, and practices." That would be a reasonable statement if this were a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread mail
Dear Amanda, it is good to hear that you will take this advise and the discussion under consideration for future decisions of this kind. But what about the one we are talking about right now? Will the WMF review it´s decision to hire the former chair of its own board, or not? Besides all the g

[Wikimedia-l] Innovate in Free Knowledge | UNLOCK 2021projects

2021-06-25 Thread Kannika Thaimai
Dear Movement members, Wikimedia Deutschland (WMDE) launched UNLOCK last year, an acceleration program which aims to “innovate in free knowledge” by promoting and supporting teams that are working on free knowledge projects and helps them turn their idea into a functional prototype [1]. In the con

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread Dan Szymborski
"Moving forward" would involve directly addressing and fixing this shocking example of board malgovernance, not corporate-doublespeaking about the future in a way that avoids any and all culpability and transparency for this gross ethical lapse. This doesn't need to be "explained" to us; it needs t

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Appropriate promotion OR Appropriate canvassing protocol/policy

2021-06-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Why is a guideline on English Wikipedia the right place for a policy that is of a global relevance? Thanks, GerardM On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 09:05, টিটো দত্ত Tito Dutta wrote: > Hello, > This is something I have been thinking about for some time. This June–July > we will see a couple of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread The Cunctator
It's pretty embarrassing that regional Wikimedias have better governance standards than the (extraordinarily wealthy) international Foundation. I don't understand how the Tides/Wikimedia general counsel believes that the conflict of interest of Maria has moved directly from being Board chair to b

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 12:56, Chris Keating wrote: > Thanks for the detailed comments. However, still, this doesn't really help > that much. > > From your email it seems that over several months the WMF has created a > new role which just happens to be ideal for its outgoing Chair to fill, and >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 11:26, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FOs9_l33gY&t=13s > That is an unhelpful and incredibly inappropriate response. Dan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: h

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
"Thank you to everyone that has provided valuable feedback. Moving forward, we will articulate and follow the best practices that emerge from these important discussions and our corresponding review of the attendant policies, procedures, and practices. Developing a more clear and consistent policy

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-25 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 18:45, Adam Wight wrote: > I can imagine many potential conflicts of interest in this two-wiki > arrangement, most concerning is the possibility that the scope of Wikimedia > could be restricted in order to drive users towards the for-profit. > This is not a hypothetical.

[Wikimedia-l] Appropriate promotion OR Appropriate canvassing protocol/policy

2021-06-25 Thread টিটো দত্ত Tito Dutta
Hello, This is something I have been thinking about for some time. This June–July we will see a couple of elections/selections. I think wherever a voting is in process, an effective canvassing/promotion policy should be there. We may need to notify our friend Wikimedians about our candidacy, that