[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

I was going to write something similar to Jonathan, but now I can just support what he said. If there are folks in the communities who desire changes to the sites, building a group of supporters and/or becoming invested in what it is really like to make those changes *socially* not technically, is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

Jonathan's comment made me smile. To be honest, it's something that crossed my mind too. I mean...the Wikipedia community can have endless arguments about the use of the Oxford comma. We are masters at arguing over what colour the bikeshed should be. There are definitely times where developer a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Toolhub 1.0 is launched! Discover software tools used at Wikimedia

This is priceless. Thank you Hay for leading the way :) and thanks to ev e ry one who made this happen. On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 4:04 PM MusikAnimal wrote: > A long time coming! The interface looks amazing and seems very well > thought out. It's nice to have an official, single go-to for all thi

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

It's not an issue of "WMF can't hire enough designers" or "WMF can't hire good designers". I worked for WMF in a design-adjacent role for the better part of a decade. WMF has *excellent *designers, and in sufficient numbers to build a modern user interface on desktop--one that *looks* modern and a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Toolhub 1.0 is launched! Discover software tools used at Wikimedia

A long time coming! The interface looks amazing and seems very well thought out. It's nice to have an official, single go-to for all things tools, user scripts, gadgets, etc. Huge thanks and kudos to everyone involved! ~ MA On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 3:37 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hot

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

Could be worse. We could still be using static, hand-written content, to create our webpages, rather than drawing information from a structured database, highlighting related/nearby content, etc. Thanks, Mike On 14/10/21 19:56:56, Tito Dutta wrote: Indeed, the lack or modernisation of the web

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Toolhub 1.0 is launched! Discover software tools used at Wikimedia

Thanks, Brigit, for this hub, it is great to have it! I have tried and can't find any way to look for tools that are not nominated as "Coolest Tool Award" besides looking for name. Is there a way for searching by categories? Thanks Galder From: Birgit Müller Sen

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

Thanks Jay for your insights. I just had a meeting with some of the team members. If they can't develop a modern and useful design in a reasonable time lapse, then the team is underfunded. Having a big team is not always better, having a team big enough to work on something it should be solved a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

Yes, that's it. Vector was obsolete when it was deployed. New Vector would be obsolete even when Vector was created. It is 2021 and we still can't edit by mobile phone. It is 2021 and most of the tools outside the biggest Wikipedias are broken. It is 2021 and the Vector redesign doesn't take int

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

Hi, I think design is a subjective term. It depends on person-to-person preferences. So there will always be a big room for improvement. WMF's Readers web team is already working to improve the design. They did research and implemented new designs. We should always cooperate with them by giving f

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees new resolution on branding

Greetings, Thanks for the update. I thank the board for taking this action. What does "supporting flexible naming for all affiliates, including the use of taglines;" mean, that is mentioned on the Diff blog post? Sincerely, User:Titodutta (Sent from a handheld device, excuse typos etc) শুক্র, 15 অ

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

Indeed, the lack or modernisation of the web interface, and lack of an improved Android/iPhone (or simply "smartphone") editing app[1] are possibly some of the major areas to focus. If the "next billion internet users", a term we often used to use are not getting involved as much as we expected, p

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees new resolution on branding

Dear all, I am happy to share with you that the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees has passed a new resolution on the topic of branding [1]. Some context As you may remember, last year the Board paused all work under the 2030 Movement Brand Project, in order to rethink and improve the Founda

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

Yes. That's why. From: Jay prakash <0freerunn...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:42 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete Hi Galder, Have you ever seen Vector skin version 2? See: https://w

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

Hi Galder, Have you ever seen Vector skin version 2? See: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements, You can adopt new versions from your preferences. Some wikis like French Wikipedia, Bangala Wikipedia, etc., already aptoted this new version for their default interface. R

[Wikimedia-l] 100$ million dollars and still obsolete

Dear all, Today I learned that, despite having $100 million in the Endowment fund, we can't have a design team big enough to make our websites not look like they're stuck in 2001. I don't know if anyone is behind the wheel, but the car is expensive. Sincerely, Galder __

[Wikimedia-l] Toolhub 1.0 is launched! Discover software tools used at Wikimedia

Hi All, We are happy to announce the launch of Toolhub – a community-authored catalogue that aims to make software tools used in the Wikimedia movement discoverable to everyone. Community developed to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Movement Charter Drafting Committee elections are now open!

Exactly this, according to the tool I'm somehow far from Risker but reading her replies I feel quite close. Vito Il giorno gio 14 ott 2021 alle ore 15:38 Risker ha scritto: > Adam, you may find the tool discussed here >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Movement Charter Drafting Committee elections are now open!

Adam, you may find the tool discussed here to be helpful. It is created by one of the candidates, is based on the information submitted by candidates for the electio

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Movement Charter Drafting Committee elections are now open!

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 12:02 PM Kaarel Vaidla wrote: > Additionally, we are piloting a so-called “Election Compass > ” for this election. Click > yourself through the tool and respond to the 19 statements, and you will > see which candidate is closes

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Conversation with Maggie Dennis on Community Resilience & Sustainability

Hi friends, the call is about to start in 20 minutes. You can watch the live stream on Youtube ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHEONef1zmQ&ab_channel=WikimediaFoundation), where you can post questions as well. Cheers Cornelius On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 5:53 PM Cornelius Kibelka < ckibelka-...@wi