Re: [Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

2015-11-19 Thread Aaron Halfaker
I've started a thread on our "Revision scoring as a service" talk page regarding labeled conversation datasets & modeling work we could do. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Revision_scoring_as_a_service#Thread_on_Toxic_communities_from_wikimedia-l On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 12:41 PM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

2015-11-15 Thread Risker
I am going to quote Joseph Reagle, who responded to a similarly titled threat on Wiki-en-L: date:13 November 2015 at 13:48 It's been great that Riot games has had someone like Lin (an experimental psychologist) to think about issues of community and abuse. And I appreciate that Lin has been prev

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

2015-11-15 Thread Pharos
The figure quoted is quite interesting, but do we have a comparable metric for the Wikimedia projects? : "... incidences of homophobia, sexism and racism ... have fallen to a combined 2 percent of all games" 2% sounds "low", but do we indeed know if this is better or worse than us? Would our comp

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

2015-11-15 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Just yesterday I had a long talk with a researcher about how to define and detect trolls on Wikipedia. E.g., whether "unintentional trolling" should be included or not. In my opinion, it is not possible to detect by machine trollism, unkindness, harassment, mobbing etc., maybe with the exc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

2015-11-15 Thread Katherine Casey
I'd be happy to offer my admin/oversighter experience and knowledge to help you develop the labeling and such, Aaron! I just commented on Andreas's proposal on the Community Wishlist, but to summarize here: I see a lot of potential pitfalls in trying to handle/generalize this with machine learning,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

2015-11-15 Thread Aaron Halfaker
> > The League of Legends team collaborated with outside scientists to > analyse their dataset. I would love to see the Wikimedia Foundation engage > in a similar research project. Oh! We are! :) When we have time. :\ One of the projects that I'd like to see done, but I've struggled to find the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

2015-11-15 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Benjamin Lees wrote: > This article highlights the happier side of things, but it appears > that Lin's approach also involved completely removing bad actors: > "Some players have also asked why we've taken such an aggressive > stance when we've been focused on ref

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

2015-11-14 Thread Benjamin Lees
This article highlights the happier side of things, but it appears that Lin's approach also involved completely removing bad actors: "Some players have also asked why we've taken such an aggressive stance when we've been focused on reform; well, the key here is that for most players, reform approac

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

2015-11-13 Thread Chris Keating
Really interesting - thanks for sharing! On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Very interesting read (via Brandon Harris): > > > http://recode.net/2015/07/07/doing-something-about-the-impossible-problem-of-abuse-in-online-games/ > > "the vast majority of negative behavior ..

[Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

2015-11-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Very interesting read (via Brandon Harris): http://recode.net/2015/07/07/doing-something-about-the-impossible-problem-of-abuse-in-online-games/ "the vast majority of negative behavior ... did not originate from the persistently negative online citizens; in fact, 87 percent of online toxicity came