Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-10 Thread Chris "Jethro" Schilling
Hi folks, I wanted to respond to a few things related to the Wikimedia Foundation's grant programs. Pine, regarding your personal situation, I know many grantees have been critical of the Wikimedia Foundation at one point or another, or even have longstanding disagreements with certain

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-09 Thread Ανώνυμος Βικιπαιδιστής
About my comment above: I was referring ONLY in WMF grants. In Greek wikipedia things are very weird and sad when people are being accused of paid editing just for getting a WMF grant through the process that we all know and always making a good and honest use of the wikimedia logos. The ones who

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-06 Thread Pine W
Definitely one needs to be careful when dealing with paid editing that it's done in a transparent way and in a way that benefits the encyclopedia. I think that the English Wikipedia community has generally accepted that Wikimedians-in-Residence can do paid editing in a way that is beneficial to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-05 Thread Ανώνυμος Βικιπαιδιστής
Unfortunately it s been said in Greek wikipedia that people that take grants are paid editors. And that came from people who already taken grants for their projects in the past. Dark times in Greek wikipedia... Στις Τρί, 4 Σεπ 2018 - 00:03 ο χρήστης Pine W έγραψε: > Hello colleagues, > > A

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-05 Thread Pine W
I think that this leaves all of us who request WMF grants in difficult positions, because either we get along with WMF or we risk WMF cutting off our funding, and there are few non-WMF alternatives for funding Wikimedia work. Even if someone finds a non-WMF alternative for funding Wikimedia work,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-05 Thread Yair Rand
I'm sorry, my understanding of how Grants are supposed to work was incorrect. From the board FAQ on the FDC resolution: "The GAC [Grant Advisory Committee], or something like it, will also need to exist even when the FDC is up and running, to handle smaller and less complex grants." There does not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-04 Thread Yair Rand
As far as I can tell, the way that this is supposed to work is for there to be no WMF influence on funds distribution. "We affirm that all funds given to the Wikimedia movement are given in support of our global projects... funds raised via the Wikimedia project sites should be considered to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-03 Thread Pine W
I apologize for the unusually large load of typos, especially misspelling Kaarel's name. Usually I get enough sleep but last night I didn't. Apparently my attention to detail is diminished. I'm rapidly spending my Wikimedia-l quota of 15 emails per calendar month, so if there is extensive

[Wikimedia-l] WMF and non-WMF funding for Wikimedia work

2018-09-03 Thread Pine W
Hello colleagues, A topic which I feel that I should address again on this mailing list is revenue for Wikimedia work, specifically WMF and non-WMF sources of revenue. I will start by talking about my personal situation, and then discuss some related situations. I am currently requesting a