Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-17 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Mar 15, 2014 7:47 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Oliver Keyes, okeyes at wikimedia.org, wrote: ... I don't see a lot of things that are likely enough to succeed and provide a meaningful impact That's how I feel about copyright term extension efforts, but we have been

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-17 Thread Andrew Gray
On 13 March 2014 11:32, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Mostly, thoughthis just really feels like it is trying to take the Wikimedia community down a path that has nothing to do with our core objectives, and to turn us into just another advocacy group. I'm not interested in that. +1

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-17 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Ah. Yeah. The job of the Community Advocacy bit of Legal and Community Advocacy is, as I understand it, to advocate for the community's need within the Foundation, and act as a conduit to the community for legal stuff.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-17 Thread James Salsman
... it's probably more effective to make your point directly Any volunteer organization with a several year history of declining volunteer participation should refocus its external advocacy efforts from actions which can benefit no more than a small percentage of volunteers to those that will

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-15 Thread James Salsman
Oliver Keyes, okeyes at wikimedia.org, wrote: ... I don't see a lot of things that are likely enough to succeed and provide a meaningful impact That's how I feel about copyright term extension efforts, but we have been standing firm on them as a defense against the very real possibility of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-14 Thread James Salsman
The job of the Community Advocacy bit of Legal and Community Advocacy is, as I understand it, to advocate for the community's need within the Foundation, and act as a conduit to the community for legal stuff. That department and its predecessors have hired professional attorneys to lobby on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-14 Thread Oliver Keyes
On 14 March 2014 00:54, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: The job of the Community Advocacy bit of Legal and Community Advocacy is, as I understand it, to advocate for the community's need within the Foundation, and act as a conduit to the community for legal stuff. That

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-13 Thread Peter Southwood
: Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:50 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey In order to address issues with previous volunteer community surveys which may not have included options able to maximize volunteer attraction and retention, I have drafted a revised volunteer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-13 Thread James Salsman
Is there ... an explanation which explains what it all means? It's an attempted improvement on the policy survey at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Survey A survey about the importance of various policy issues ... given the highest priority by our community. If you are having trouble

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-13 Thread Risker
On 13 March 2014 05:13, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Is there ... an explanation which explains what it all means? It's an attempted improvement on the policy survey at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Survey A survey about the importance of various policy issues ...

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-13 Thread Craig Franklin
In addition to Risker's comments, which I agree with 100%, I would further request that any future survey of users be designed and supervised only by someone with extensive expertise and experience in the field of survey methodology. Many previous surveys that have been done by the Foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-13 Thread Tilman Bayer
Hi Craig, On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: In addition to Risker's comments, which I agree with 100%, I would further request that any future survey of users be designed and supervised only by someone with extensive expertise and experience in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-13 Thread James Salsman
... list of causes - many of which have little or no correlation with anything even vaguely related to the operation of the WMF, its core philosophies, or its purpose If the Trustees have decided that we should pay advocates, why not advocate on the issues most likely to increase the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-13 Thread Risker
On 13 March 2014 22:38, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: snip If the Trustees have decided that we should pay advocates, snip Link to the board of decision to pay advocates please. Risker ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-13 Thread James Salsman
Link to the board of decision to pay advocates please. The most recent seems to be the approval f the Annual Plan as per

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-13 Thread Risker
On 13 March 2014 23:56, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Link to the board of decision to pay advocates please. The most recent seems to be the approval f the Annual Plan as per

Re: [Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-13 Thread Oliver Keyes
Ah. Yeah. The job of the Community Advocacy bit of Legal and Community Advocacy is, as I understand it, to advocate for the community's need within the Foundation, and act as a conduit to the community for legal stuff. Their job is not to advocate for reduction in public school class sizes or more

[Wikimedia-l] draft revised volunteer community survey

2014-03-12 Thread James Salsman
In order to address issues with previous volunteer community surveys which may not have included options able to maximize volunteer attraction and retention, I have drafted a revised volunteer community survey which includes new items and top-scoring components of the previous community survey: