Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 March 2014 22:33, Lyle Allan wrote: > Surely there should be a right of appeal. Just removing someone from a list > on the sayso of one person is something that should not be acceptable. That's why a second admin would be an idea. OTOH, "don't be a dick" is the fundamental meta-rule of a

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-18 Thread Lyle Allan
Surely there should be a right of appeal. Just removing someone from a list on the sayso of one person is something that should not be acceptable. -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of David Gera

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-18 Thread David Gerard
For now I've put the following text on the listinfo page: "Posters are expected to conduct themselves in a decorous manner appropriate to a working list. Posters not doing so may be moderated or removed. The list moderators' decision is final." I'd expect personal attacks or legal threats would v

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-18 Thread K. Peachey
There used to a be a good document on TS wiki for their mailing lists we could link to. On 18 March 2014 21:59, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:16 PM, David Gerard wrote: > > On 18 March 2014 10:49, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > > > >> While legal threats are banned on

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:16 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 18 March 2014 10:49, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > >> While legal threats are banned on the wiki projects, the mailing lists >> are managed differently, and there are differences in expectations of >> behaviour (and dispute resolution) for

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 March 2014 10:49, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > While legal threats are banned on the wiki projects, the mailing lists > are managed differently, and there are differences in expectations of > behaviour (and dispute resolution) for the mailing lists. Personally I'd consider legal threats

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Gryllida wrote: > On Tue, 18 Mar 2014, at 20:41, to...@iinet.net.au wrote: >> Steven, you don't put someone on moderation because they're asking >> uncomfortable questions. You provided no evidence of your accusations >> of "personal attack". > > Just by evidence o

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-18 Thread Gryllida
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014, at 20:41, to...@iinet.net.au wrote: > Steven, you don't put someone on moderation because they're asking > uncomfortable questions. You provided no evidence of your accusations > of "personal attack". Just by evidence of two instances of such attacks in this thread? One of the

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-18 Thread tony2
Steven, you don't put someone on moderation because they're asking uncomfortable questions. You provided no evidence of your accusations of "personal attack". It is very strange to try to shift WMAU members onto a secret mailing list after establishing this public list. I note that none of my unco

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list

2014-03-18 Thread Steve Zhang
Hi all, Given the response we have received from some and after some discussion, I have removed Tony from the ban list of the mailing list. In retrospect, moderation might have been the better avenue to take, so I apologise for my part in the drama that my actions caused. I've asked someone indep