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2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Ludovic Péron
Hi, I found this webhttp://www.bjinstitute.org/newsmessage/reprostationen-des-bj-institutes-fuer-wikipedia/10a20af93816783eefe8480b92b9f042/ page on the web site of BJ Institute. Problem : This image is a CC By SA photography on Commons and the credit is wrong (good credit : Charles Andrès - CC

Re: [Wikimediach-l] (no subject)

2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Hartwig Thomas
The credit is not wrong, but possibly somewhat incomplete. As you well know, much of the content of Wikimedia has more than one author and it is common knowledge that all of the content of Wikimedia is published as CC-BY-SA or GFDL. In the case of many authors attribution is often difficult.

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2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Hartwig Thomas
To cite another example: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rencontres_Wikimedia_France_-_Intervention_de_Ludovic_P%C3%A9ron.JPG states clearly, that the license is CC-BY-SA, but – very unfortunately indeed – it does not unambiguously attribute the authorship!! Or does “user” mean

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2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Ludovic Péron
I think we're not talking about the same pictures. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Herbarium_Neuch%C3%A2tel,_Ludovic_P%C3%A9ron_num%C3%A9risant_des_planches.jpg It's Charles Andrès the author of this one. Ludovic 2013/10/16 Hartwig Thomas hartwig.tho...@enterag.ch Sorry, I did not

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2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Ludovic Péron
No. If i save the picture on my computer, I don't see these EXIF. 2013/10/16 Hartwig Thomas hartwig.tho...@enterag.ch In that case, there is nothing to worry about! The picture on Brunos website contains the same metadata and therefore contains the attribution! Hartwig ** **

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2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Hartwig Thomas
Did you notice, that the scanning station on the picture was invented and built by Bruno with his own mind and hands and made available to Wikipedia for free? Did Charles Andrès ask his permission to publish a photograph of it? Did he attribute its author correctly? Does he work for Wikimedia

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2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Frédéric Schütz
On 16/10/13 13:39, Hartwig Thomas wrote: Sorry, I did not see the word author. So the file should be attributed to Thesupermat, not to Charles Andrès. I think you are mixing up the images; the images you cite in the email below was created by Thesupermat, as indicated. The original image

Re: [Wikimediach-l] (no subject)

2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Ludovic Péron
Thomas, The reprostation on this picture is the first one of this project. So the creator of this reprostation is not Burno, it's *me*. Ludovic 2013/10/16 Hartwig Thomas hartwig.tho...@enterag.ch Did you notice, that the scanning station on the picture was invented and built by Bruno with

Re: [Wikimediach-l] (no subject)

2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Hartwig Thomas
On my computer, I do see it. (Windows 7, Windows Explorer, down below ...) Besides, Bruno can hardly be responsible for what YOU can or cannot do! Hartwig From: wikimediach-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediach-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Ludovic Péron Sent:

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2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Fanny Schertzer
2013/10/16 Hartwig Thomas hartwig.tho...@enterag.ch The credit is not wrong, but possibly somewhat incomplete. It's not incomplete, it's non existent. It names the repository instead of the source, the author is not mentioned, let's not even talk about the license (which, I admit, is the

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2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Hartwig Thomas
Not true! You may have built it. The „Creator“ of the intellectual property was Bruno! Hartwig From: wikimediach-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediach-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Ludovic Péron Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:50 PM To: Wikimedians in

Re: [Wikimediach-l] (no subject)

2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Hartwig Thomas
I shall quit participating in Wikimedia. I cannot stand people with that kind of attitude. Hartwig From: wikimediach-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediach-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Fanny Schertzer Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:53 PM To: Wikimedians in

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2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Fanny Schertzer
2013/10/16 Hartwig Thomas hartwig.tho...@enterag.ch Did you notice, that the scanning station on the picture was invented and built by Bruno with his own mind and hands and made available to Wikipedia for free? Did Charles Andrès ask his permission to publish a photograph of it? Did he

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2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Frédéric Schütz
On 16/10/13 13:47, Hartwig Thomas wrote: Did you notice, that the scanning station on the picture was invented and built by Bruno with his own mind and hands and made available to Wikipedia for free? Did Charles Andrès ask his permission to publish a photograph of it? Did he attribute its

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2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Fanny Schertzer
2013/10/16 Hartwig Thomas hartwig.tho...@enterag.ch I have had my cup of tea. I still consider people despicable who do not recognize, that someone has spent weeks and weeks for no money whatsoever to further the common good. A nice private notice or question to Bruno would have been

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2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Ludovic Péron
Thomas, Please, see the medata of the filehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Herbarium_Neuch%C3%A2tel,_Ludovic_P%C3%A9ron_num%C3%A9risant_des_planches.jpg, look the date of the picture : 29 June 2012 WMCH bought the Bruno's reprostation in december 2012 So, it's really complected to

[Wikimediach-l] Wikimedia CH Education Program

2013-10-16 Diskussionsfäden Charles Andrès
Following Gabriel's email, I take this opportunity to inform you about the Wikimedia CH Education Program, This program aims to support the usage of Wikipedia in Classroom, it can be by being present in the class with the teacher, or by helping Wikimedians who already have programs in class.