Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-09 Thread Ashwin Baindur
I would only like to remind people that showing some sympathy is not a bad thing . Coming from armed forces where there are no second places - to me the greatest sin is lack of competence, whether in language, wiki-writing, techniques or otherwise. I was told by someone that Wikipeding was a

[Wikimediaindia-l] Is there a sign-up to be a member of the India Chapter drive being organized around GNUnify 2012 ?

2012-02-09 Thread sankarshan
In the backdrop of the hackathon, would this be a good thing to have ? If not already planned. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-09 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi, I think we mean this criticism only in the Wikipedia reference. It's not as if we're going to catch and hand over this guy to the Police. Such paid editing lowers the morale of other editors. Efforts must be made to stop such work that is detrimental to other Wikipedia volunteers. Then

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: I was told by someone that Wikipeding was a voluntary activity so high standards should not be expected in competence. If that is true, then we should not suddenly start witch-hunting on the basis of principle when

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-09 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
I think, some are getting it all wrong. It is not about sympathies to Nichalp or who so ever. The problem is not conflict of interest editing... It is not even a philosophical debate of Paid editing Vs Volunteer editing... The problem is getting paid to white wash negative materials in favor of

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia

2012-02-09 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Noopur, I'm sorry for the confusion caused. It isn't very obvious that Commons implies OGV. Not many people are aware of that. I still come across many who don't upload because they don't know how to convert. While on the subject, perhaps you and Arnav Sonara could do something about GLAM? --Re.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
It isn't easy to stand ground when you are outnumbered. It also isn't god when the cop reels out a law which you've never heard of. I said, I'd look up the law over the Internet on my phone. Saying so, perhaps, we could all create a page with all local laws on such matters and put it up on either

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Is there a sign-up to be a member of the India Chapter drive being organized around GNUnify 2012 ?

2012-02-09 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
At this time, it wouldn't be a good idea, as all Chapter Memberships expire in March-end. Unless ofcourse, the Chapter starts registrations for next year now itself. -- On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:14 AM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: In the backdrop of the hackathon, would this

[Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: Education Times/ Times of India : Knowledge Unbounded

2012-02-09 Thread Tinu Cherian (Wikimedia India)
*Education Times/ Times of India : Knowledge Unbounded* http://educationtimes.com/educationTimes/CMSD/Newsroom/1/2012020920120209132850885eb9e9de1/Knowledge-Unbounded.html / Netaji Subhash Engineering College, Kolkata along with Wikimedia Foundation hosted the first WikiAcademy Conference in

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-09 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
On the subject of neutrality. What if the Washinton Post, or New York Times carried out an article showing IIPM/AC in negative light? Will they also be categorised as opinionated? I believe the matter is a semi-domesticated issue. Only Indian companies are getting sued. On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Deepon Saha
Good Idea Srikanth.. Deepon On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: It isn't easy to stand ground when you are outnumbered. It also isn't god when the cop reels out a law which you've never heard of. I said, I'd look up the law over the Internet

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Deepon Saha hideeponh...@gmail.com wrote: Good Idea Srikanth.. Deepon On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: It isn't easy to stand ground when you are outnumbered. It also isn't god when the cop reels out a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Ravishankar
Hey, I find it interesting that Indian police take active interest in nation's security this way ;) Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Vickram, The way things are going, anything and everything is sensitive. Even taking pictures at the Government Rose Garden [where photography is allowed], is frowned upon by the Police. Or plaques commemorating public structures. -- On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Vickram Crishna

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-09 Thread Ravishankar
The problem is not conflict of interest editing... It is not even a philosophical debate of Paid editing Vs Volunteer editing... The problem is getting paid to white wash negative materials in favor of the clients, which eventually render Wikipedia articles biased and information

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Ashwin Baindur
The Doll's Museum in New Delhi used to prohibit photography! Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Vickram, The way things are going, anything and everything

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Anirudh Bhati
Tangential: I don't think there is any reliable online source which documents advice on dealing with law enforcement officials in India. What are the protections that a citizen have against unreasonable searches and seizures by public officials? The Fourth Amendment to the US Bill of Rights

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Anirudh Bhati
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: Tangential: I don't think there is any reliable online source which documents advice on dealing with law enforcement officials in India. What are the protections that a citizen have against unreasonable searches and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-09 Thread Ravishankar
Ashwin, I already said discussing in general terms is fine. Nichalp Vs Wifione is out of the scope of this list in my opinion. Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: The Doll's Museum in New Delhi used to prohibit photography! There are lot of places including museums and temples globally which prohibit photography or require special permissions. The issue is prohibiting

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-09 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Ah but much of the discussion arose because of that case! Hence its relevance. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Ashwin, I already said discussing in general terms is

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
Top posting: yes, *sensitive* spots, not spots of possible connection with *national security*. The police take an active interest wherever money can be sniffed, not only where the government may or may not have an interest. In the former kind of places, one can very often discern an extra-legal

[Wikimediaindia-l] Bangalore Meetup 42

2012-02-09 Thread RadhaKrishna Arvapally
Hi All, Bangalore Meetup 42 is being organized on Feb 12th sunday. Those who are in bangalore, please join. More details @ http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WP:MBL42 -- Thanks Regards, RadhaKrishna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arkrishna ___

[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [datameet] National Data Sharing and Accessibility Policy 2012 Approved

2012-02-09 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi, I believe that this is relevant here since we have been trying to access government data to improve Wikipedia articles. Pradeep Handheld -- Forwarded message -- From: Pranesh Prakash pran...@cis-india.org Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:22:22 +0530 Subject: [datameet] National

[Wikimediaindia-l] Urgent help required! Wikipedia Academy at GNUNIFY techfest, SICSR, Model Colony, Pune on 11th Feb 2012 from 10AM to 1 PM

2012-02-09 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Dear friends, GNUNIFY techfest is being held at SICSR, Model Colony, Pune from 10 to 12th Feb 2011. There is a Wikimedia hackathon also associated with it. On 11th February from 10AM to 1 PM there is a Wikipedia Academy which is to be done by self Sudhanwa followed by a Marathi Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [datameet] National Data Sharing and Accessibility Policy 2012 Approved

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
It would be absolutely fantastic if we can organise ongoing training and sensitisation sessions for government departments in order to assist them to streamline timely uploading of public information. These may also be conducted at universities where scientific research is published, for the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [datameet] National Data Sharing and Accessibility Policy 2012 Approved

2012-02-09 Thread Tinu Cherian (Wikimedia India)
This is excellent news ! We need to explore if they are sharing data in the licenses that enable us to re-use on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia Projects. Regards Tinu Cherian Wikimedia India Chapter. On 2/10/2012 12:27 PM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote: hi, I believe that this is relevant here

[Wikimediaindia-l] Announcement: Building a new Legal and Community Advocacy Department Promotion of Philippe Beaudette

2012-02-09 Thread Anirudh Bhati
This is for your information. Sincerely, Anirudh Bhati -- Forwarded message -- From: Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 5:19 AM Subject: [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Building a new Legal and Community Advocacy Department Promotion of