Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-19 Thread Shiju Alex
For SVG translation, use this tool: http://toolserver.org/~jarry/svgtranslate/ My suggestion would be, let the respective language community do the translation. Transliteration may not work work all the time. On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Naveen Francis wrote: > Hi > > I have done a plai

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Gautam John wrote: > On 15 June 2011 03:38, Vickram Crishna wrote: > > > In this light, the copyright disclaimer on the Census webpage seems > > completely invalid. > > Vickram - good catch but even the lack of a copyright notice does not, > per se, mean there is

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-14 Thread Gautam John
Hi Naveen: What do you guys mean when you say you will create maps based on this? Do you create your own maps with this as the base map? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ On 15 June 2011 12:20, Naveen Francis wrote: > Now Gautam, > > What do you suggest ? not

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-14 Thread Naveen Francis
Now Gautam, What do you suggest ? not use that pdf ? Discussion is not reaching anywhere On 15 June 2011 11:51, Gautam John wrote: > On 15 June 2011 03:38, Vickram Crishna wrote: > > > In this light, the copyright disclaimer on the Census webpage seems > > completely invalid. > > Vickram - goo

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-14 Thread Gautam John
On 15 June 2011 03:38, Vickram Crishna wrote: > In this light, the copyright disclaimer on the Census webpage seems > completely invalid. Vickram - good catch but even the lack of a copyright notice does not, per se, mean there is no copyright. Copyright is presumed to be granted the moment it h

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Abhilash S Unni wrote: > Does this help. > > http://censusindia.gov.in/Footer_Menus/Disclaimer.html > > The site mentions > that > > quote > > *Copyright:* > > Material on this site subject to copyright unless

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Gautam John wrote: > So here's an idea. > > The Government has promised some open data and maps next month: > > > http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-06-04/news/29620789_1_national-data-spatial-data-access > > Maybe, what we can all do, is to collect

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread Gautam John
So here's an idea. The Government has promised some open data and maps next month: http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-06-04/news/29620789_1_national-data-spatial-data-access Maybe, what we can all do, is to collect examples of how and where openly licensed content helps and we can

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:50 PM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > By officially lobbying to release such data with the census board and > Goverment PRDs to the public domain. I suggest putting up a project proposal on Wiki at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Projects:2011-12 and signing up as a volunteer or

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
By officially lobbying to release such data with the census board and Goverment PRDs to the public domain. -Tinu Cherian On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Naveen Francis wrote: > Hi Tinu, > > How can chapter help in this ? > > Thanks, > Naveen Francis > > > On 8 June 2011 16:25, CherianTinu Abra

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread Naveen Francis
Hi Tinu, How can chapter help in this ? Thanks, Naveen Francis On 8 June 2011 16:25, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > Even I have tried to reach them on all these fronts and didn't work ! > > If the India chapter wants to help us on this, there is nothing more to > make a few like us very happy !

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Even I have tried to reach them on all these fronts and didn't work ! If the India chapter wants to help us on this, there is nothing more to make a few like us very happy ! :) Regards Tinu Cherian On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Naveen Francis wrote: > Hi > > I have send a mail to them; as al

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread Naveen Francis
Hi I have send a mail to them; as always no reply from them. Posted the same request on the wall of Census2011 http://www.facebook.com/Census2011 If you have fb account try to convey the same message on facebook wall; then they will notice and respond back if we are lucky. It has worked for few

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread Gautam John
Hi Ravi: Personally, I am all for Fair Dealing/Use activism but the problem has been with the folk on Commons, no? That they keep deleting stuff? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ On 8 June 2011 14:51, Ravishankar wrote: > Hi, > > Sometime before, we used the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Gautam John wrote: > Vickram, in my opinion and that of a friend, asking for a voluntary > license (18,19,30A) along with the fact that it is a transformative > use is probably the best bet. If not, fair dealing but that does leave > us open to a legal challenge. A

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-08 Thread Ravishankar
Hi, Sometime before, we used the word meanings from a technical glossary provided by Tamil Virtual University for the Tamil Wiktionary project. Our rational is that only the presentation can be copyrighted and not the word or meaning. If the word or meaning itself is copyrighted, then there is no

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread Gautam John
Vickram, in my opinion and that of a friend, asking for a voluntary license (18,19,30A) along with the fact that it is a transformative use is probably the best bet. If not, fair dealing but that does leave us open to a legal challenge. Aside from this, there is the issue that even if we did get a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Gautam John wrote: > On 8 June 2011 01:03, Vickram Crishna wrote: > > My reading is that the Census Authority is very much a part of > government. A question that I have been thinking about is whether > census data (in the raw form and not the presentation) is cap

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread Abhilash S Unni
Does this help. http://censusindia.gov.in/Footer_Menus/Disclaimer.html The site mentions that quote *Copyright:* Material on this site subject to copyright unless otherwise indicated. The material may be downloaded without requiring prior

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
I don't understand how the results of how many people are literate and/or married in a locality cann be copyrighted. Rsrikanth05 Sent from my Motorola L9. Please excuse spelling errors. On Jun 8, 2011 1:03 AM, "Vickram Crishna" wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Gautam John wrote: > > Sadl

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread Gautam John
On 8 June 2011 01:03, Vickram Crishna wrote: > OK. No offense taken. Your legal grounding is well established, as we all > know. Oh sorry - none meant! Apologies if it sounded otherwise. > Can anyone please point me to the relevant link (for the census data, > because the Census Authority is di

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Gautam John wrote: > Sadly, the issue of Government copyright exists and is real. There is no > getting around it. > > OK. No offense taken. Your legal grounding is well established, as we all know. Can anyone please point me to the relevant link (for the census d

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread Gautam John
Sadly, the issue of Government copyright exists and is real. There is no getting around it. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ On 7 June 2011 23:22, Vickram Crishna wrote: > Broadly speaking, any data collected with the use of public funds cannot be > restricte

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread Vickram Crishna
Broadly speaking, any data collected with the use of public funds cannot be restricted for use from any member of the public. Having said that, even copyrighted information may be free to use, after all that is precisely what copyleft is. However, the use of copyleft is not commonly applied to tex

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread Gautam John
What do you guys mean when you say you will create maps based on this? Do you create your own maps with this as the base map? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ On 7 June 2011 21:11, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > Census website says : > "Material on this site su

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Census website says : "Material on this site subject to copyright unless otherwise indicated." I am particularly curious on how we would be able to use data from census website. I used 2001 census data as input data for my Indian villages pilot project on en.wiki. I was waiting for 2011 census dat

[Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.

2011-06-07 Thread Naveen Francis
Hi all, New maps for respective states can be created with following base. *Census Maps* http://www.censusindia.gov.in/2011census/maps/maps2011.html http://www.censusindia.gov.in/2011census/maps/administrative_maps/admmaps2011.html Kerala administrative maps already created by Rajeshodayanchal<