Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

That would make an interesting project, Tom. I don't know how big the UK community is (or how we'd define it), but I do try to encourage meetups around the country as much as I can. We ought to have a recruitment drive to convert interested editors into members and try to engage them in a broader

[Wikimediauk-l] Alert: GLAMcamp 15-16 September 2012, London

Hi, I would like to confirm that we are holding a GLAMcamp networking event on the weekend of 15-16 September 2012 in the British Library conference centre. Please see for details and registration. The GLAMwiki conference has been deferred until

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 Jul 2012, at 09:38, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 27 July 2012 16:26, David Gerard wrote: >> I vaguely recall someone saying the chapter agreement didn't allow it, >> but I'm sure WMUK would be most pleased for me to be wrong :-) > > The chapters agreement doesn't. It falls under the trademar

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 16:26, David Gerard wrote: > I vaguely recall someone saying the chapter agreement didn't allow it, > but I'm sure WMUK would be most pleased for me to be wrong :-) The chapters agreement doesn't. It falls under the trademark agreement. I'm not sure what WMUK's trademark agreement

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

On 27 July 2012 16:35, e-mail freezetag wrote: > Of course another way of looking at the "tedious numbers" discussion is that > less than 0.5% of the active users on the English Wikipedia bothered to vote > in the ArbCom elections. Having something like 1 in 200 of the eligible > electorate turnin

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 17:19, Michael Peel wrote: > > On 27 Jul 2012, at 09:14, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> On 27 July 2012 17:04, Michael Peel wrote: >> >> [Of Wikimedia-UK merchandise] >> >>> The question is more, is it worthwhile doing and/or pushing for? Is there >>> a market, and sufficient benefit fo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

[offlist] The last sentence, given your knickers comment, is really begging for humorous interpretation... On 27 July 2012 17:14, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 27 July 2012 17:04, Michael Peel wrote: > > [Of Wikimedia-UK merchandise] > > > The question is more, is it worthwhile doing and/or pushing

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 Jul 2012, at 09:14, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 27 July 2012 17:04, Michael Peel wrote: > > [Of Wikimedia-UK merchandise] > >> The question is more, is it worthwhile doing and/or pushing for? Is there >> a market, and sufficient benefit for the projects? > > The charity of which I'm a trus

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 17:04, Michael Peel wrote: [Of Wikimedia-UK merchandise] > The question is more, is it worthwhile doing and/or pushing for? Is there > a market, and sufficient benefit for the projects? The charity of which I'm a trustee, the West Midland Bird Club

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: > It didn't come to me (not worried; just noting) > > Tom > Me neither (ditto). Andreas ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 Jul 2012, at 08:26, David Gerard wrote: > On 27 July 2012 16:20, Thomas Dalton wrote: >> On 27 July 2012 13:59, David Gerard wrote: > >>> We should consider that this isn't merchandise for sale, but giveaway >>> swag - chapters can't sell merchandise (yet), just give it away. (Go >>> vis

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

Of course another way of looking at the "tedious numbers" discussion is that less than 0.5% of the active users on the English Wikipedia bothered to vote in the ArbCom elections. Having something like 1 in 200 of the eligible electorate turning out to vote is an interesting comparison with the WMUK

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 16:20, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 27 July 2012 13:59, David Gerard wrote: >> We should consider that this isn't merchandise for sale, but giveaway >> swag - chapters can't sell merchandise (yet), just give it away. (Go >> visit WMUK and get away without a coffee mug.) > Are you s

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 13:59, David Gerard wrote: > We should consider that this isn't merchandise for sale, but giveaway > swag - chapters can't sell merchandise (yet), just give it away. (Go > visit WMUK and get away without a coffee mug.) Are you sure about that? I remember Mike Godwin saying repeati

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27/07/12 15:54, Jon Davies wrote: Our own ale? I can help with the re-cycling. I can supply the hops (Fuggles). Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27/07/12 15:48, Andy Mabbett wrote: Indeed. Perhaps something like "Wikimedia UK supports Wikipedia" or "Wikipedia - supported by Wikimedia UK"? Wikimedia UK supports Wikipedia and The Commons and Wikimania (all over the place)? Gordo ___ Wik

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

Our own ale? I can help with the re-cycling. On 27 July 2012 15:48, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 27 July 2012 14:02, Stevie Benton > wrote: > > > I think it's sensible to have co-branding where possible. > > Indeed. Perhaps something like "Wikimedia UK supports Wikipedia" or > "Wikipedia - supporte

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 14:02, Stevie Benton wrote: > I think it's sensible to have co-branding where possible. Indeed. Perhaps something like "Wikimedia UK supports Wikipedia" or "Wikipedia - supported by Wikimedia UK"? > The mugs that David mentioned (we still have some left if anyone would like > on

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 12:15, Daria Cybulska wrote: > Dear All, > > I am planning on ordering Wikimedia UK branded lanyards, polo shirts and > notepads to be used at events. I get a lanyard - effectively single-use - at almost every event, conference and trade show I go to. Please can we consider less t

[Wikimediauk-l] Wolvopedia:

As part of "Make Shift": http://maketheshift.org/ an appeal for ideas to improve community life in Wolverhampton, I've made a proposal for Wolvopedia, a Monmouthpedia-style project. People with an interest in that city can express support by voting for it here: http://maketheshift.userv

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Charles Matthews < charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > On 27 July 2012 12:54, Andreas Kolbe wrote:> > Everybody > > on this list cares about ArbCom decisions, most of the time, and so does > the > > entire body of administrators in the English Wikipedia. For

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

You'll be please to know that Gibrarlarpedia logo is cc by sa On 27 July 2012 15:44, David Gerard wrote: > On 27 July 2012 14:35, Richard Symonds > wrote: > > > Tom and Harry are broadly right though, I think - 'swag for the public' > > should be largely project-branded, and 'swag for volunteer

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 14:35, Richard Symonds wrote: > Tom and Harry are broadly right though, I think - 'swag for the public' > should be largely project-branded, and 'swag for volunteers to use', should > be more Wikimedia-UK branded. Does that make sense? It does. Ideally both logos. Though the Wi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Thanks - we're talking to Philippe but there's no movement as yet. I'll get in touch with Daniel :-) Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 27 July 2012 14:3

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Tentative schedule for London WIkinews Workshop

On 27 July 2012 13:44, Richard Symonds wrote: > We've got a camcorder you can borrow for the day? It's HD and has a tripod... > On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 13:55 +0100, Stevie Benton wrote: > We also have a really handy sound recorder if you fancy doing some > podcasting, too. We'll see once I

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Richard Symonds wrote: > We're waiting on a reply from the WMF, as it's their list, not the > chapters. We asked them to delete a couple of posts before everything goes > fully open. No response from them yet, but once the WMF deletes those posts, > we can move fo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

I think you visited in the pre-mug era... but I know there's at least one mug in Hong Kong somewhere! Harry raises a good point, but there is an issue here that we need to be promoting ourselves within the movement to some degree. We need to be seen as a successful chapter, and a chapter which oth

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

It is absolutely vital to remember, for reasons that are global and legal, that the Chapter does not have a purview over individual's on-wiki behaviour. The board has accepted the Arbcom judgement - it is their business. I could write up pages of the discussion from last night but we would risk tu

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 14:14, HJ Mitchell wrote: > A reputation for the chapter is only a means to an end, and that end > should be "to promote and support the widest possible public access to, > use of and contribution to Open Content of an encyclopaedic or educational > nature or of similar utility to

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

> > I am not going to say "let's move on", because the topic of the thread > is a legitimate one for members of the chapter to discuss. I am not > myself a WMUK member, and I have things to do now, as do the Board and > Fae. I have my own views on framing the issue, which have to some > extent appe

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 13:59, David Gerard wrote: > On 27 July 2012 13:57, HJ Mitchell wrote: > > > Without wishing to prompt an influx of comments about visual identity > etc, I > > think we should be wary of promoting the chapter (not just with > merchandise) > > over the projects which the chapter e

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

A reputation for the chapter is only a means to an end, and that end should be "to promote and support the widest possible public access to, use of and contribution to Open Content of an encyclopaedic or educational nature or of similar utility to the general public, in particular the Open Conte

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

On 27 July 2012 12:54, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Charles Matthews > wrote: >> >> The point really is who actually cares about ArbCom decisions > > > I am really surprised to see a former member of ArbCom say this. Perhaps you would be less surprised if you had been

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

Hello all, I hope my comment doesn't count as an influx ;-) I think it's sensible to have co-branding where possible. We do need to promote ourselves as a chapter as much as the projects, in some ways. The mugs that David mentioned (we still have some left if anyone would like one!) are a really

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Tentative schedule for London WIkinews Workshop

On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 13:44 +0100, Richard Symonds wrote: > We've got a camcorder you can borrow for the day? It's HD and has a > tripod... Excellent! ... -- Brian McNeil -- Wikinews Accredited Reporter | https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil "Facts don't cease to be facts, but news cease

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 13:57, HJ Mitchell wrote: > Without wishing to prompt an influx of comments about visual identity etc, I > think we should be wary of promoting the chapter (not just with merchandise) > over the projects which the chapter exists to support. > Wikipedia is a much more recognisable

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

Without wishing to prompt an influx of comments about visual identity etc, I think we should be wary of promoting the chapter (not just with merchandise) over the projects which the chapter exists to support. Wikipedia is a much more recognisable brand and the largest and most successful projec

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

It didn't come to me (not worried; just noting) Tom On 27 July 2012 13:52, Gordon Joly wrote: > Yes, I have seen that email (as a current member). > > Gordo > > > On 27/07/12 12:04, Deryck Chan wrote: > >> I think Jon Davies has done so already. >> >> On 27/07/2012, Gordon Joly wrote: >> >>> T

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Yes, I have seen that email (as a current member). Gordo On 27/07/12 12:04, Deryck Chan wrote: I think Jon Davies has done so already. On 27/07/2012, Gordon Joly wrote: Thanks Mike. Could I suggest that an email is also sent to all members on the Wikimedia UK membership database? Gordo O

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Charles Matthews < charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > The point really is who actually cares about ArbCom decisions > I am really surprised to see a former member of ArbCom say this. Everybody on this list cares about ArbCom decisions, most of the time, and

[Wikimediauk-l] Unsubscribe

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

http://www.copytrader.net On Thu Jul 26 17:14 , geni sent: On 26 July 2012 21:48, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 26 July 2012 15:39, geni wrote: > >> Fae is banned from wikipedia. > > No he isn't. “Fæ is indefinitely banned from the English Language

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

At the risk of overloading this thread with Australians, I subscribed a couple of weeks ago to this list (nothing special about the UK though, I subscribed to most of the English-language regional lists to keep abreast of what's going on globally GLAM-wise), with no problems. So anyone who might b

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Mobile site

Have just taken it to the general chapters list :-) Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 27 July 2012 12:14, Richard Symonds wrote: > I spotted that the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Feel free to circulate. The key issues for me are openness and transparency plus timeliness. Do I need to put 'margerine' in the title to get people interested? On 27 July 2012 12:21, Richard Symonds wrote: > It was just to those who have commented on the matter, publicly or > privately. It wen

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

It was just to those who have commented on the matter, publicly or privately. It went to both members and non-members, because some people who are commenting aren't actually WMUK members - so an email to the membership list would exclude them :-) Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaim

[Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

Dear All, I am planning on ordering Wikimedia UK branded lanyards, polo shirts and notepads to be used at events. If you would like to send across any ideas concerning the design of these, then please do send them here - ideally by 3 August. Polo shirts: - These would be stitched on, so the small

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Mobile site

I spotted that the other day... it redirects to uk.m.wikimedia.org... I'll drop an email to the other chapters and see if anyone else is having similar problems, then we can approach the WMF together. On 27 July 2012 08:05, Thomas Morton wrote: > Just FYI, the mobile version of our site doesn't

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 27/07/2012 12:04, Deryck Chan wrote: I think Jon Davies has done so already. I'm not sure whether that was an email to all members of Wikimedia UK, or just those who have commented publicly and or privately on the matter. KTC -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - H

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

I think Jon Davies has done so already. On 27/07/2012, Gordon Joly wrote: > > Thanks Mike. > > Could I suggest that an email is also sent to all members on the > Wikimedia UK membership database? > > Gordo > > > On 26/07/12 23:02, Michael Peel wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm sending this statement on

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Tom, you know I respect your opinion, but I think you're trying to read more into the board's statement than is there and you're misinterpreting it in a way that supports your view. The issues surrounding Fae on enwiki were well known at the time of the AGM, and the membership re-elected Fae by

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

We're waiting on a reply from the WMF, as it's their list, not the chapters. We asked them to delete a couple of posts before everything goes fully open. No response from them yet, but once the WMF deletes those posts, we can move forward :-) Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jul 27, 2012 5:08 AM,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Thanks Mike. Could I suggest that an email is also sent to all members on the Wikimedia UK membership database? Gordo On 26/07/12 23:02, Michael Peel wrote: Hi all, I'm sending this statement on behalf of the WMUK Board: -- As some members of Wikimedia UK will know, our Chair, Ashley Va

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 27 July 2012 08:23, Thomas Morton wrote: >> The Board points out that the editing issues were fully public before, and >> during, the recent elections to the board, and were openly and publicly >> discussed. Our membership placed their trust in him by electing him as a >> Trustee. He was then e

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

> > The Board points out that the editing issues were fully public before, and > during, the recent elections to the board, and were openly and publicly > discussed. Our membership placed their trust in him by electing him as a > Trustee. He was then elected unanimously as Chair of the Board. He >

[Wikimediauk-l] Mobile site

Just FYI, the mobile version of our site doesn't work :-( Tom Morton ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org