Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-17 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:26 PM, James Farrar wrote: > OK, here's a very quick first draft of the motion and election rules for > STV. > > > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LondonStatto/Proposed_EGM_Motion_on_Voting_System > > > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LondonStatto/Proposed_STV_Electi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Thomas Morton
*sigh* caught in the reply-issue On 18 September 2012 00:04, Thomas Morton wrote: > On 18 September 2012 00:03, Thomas Dalton wrote: > >> On 17 September 2012 23:50, Thomas Morton >> wrote: >> > OK, having done some digging; this project seems to be often referred >> to or >> > introduced a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-17 Thread Katie Chan
On 17/09/2012 23:50, rexx wrote: The only problem is likely to be finding a good implementation in software. There is a refinement of Schulze described at the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schulze_STV which has a python implementation at https://github.com/bradbeattie/python-vote-core/blo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 September 2012 23:50, Thomas Morton wrote: > OK, having done some digging; this project seems to be often referred to or > introduced as a WMUK project. > > (e.g. this Wikimania video: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GibraltarpediA_introduction_video.ogg ) > > Obviously that is a concern

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-17 Thread Deryck Chan
James, "Should some Directors appointed under these Rules be required, under Article 16.2, to retire at the next Annual General Meeting, those Directors shall be those who received the fewest first preferences. In the event of a tie, a teller shall draw lots prior to announcing the result. The ann

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Thomas Morton
OK, having done some digging; this project seems to be often referred to or introduced as a WMUK project. (e.g. this Wikimania video: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GibraltarpediA_introduction_video.ogg *)* * * Obviously that is a concerning facet that needs to be cleared up also. Tom On 17 S

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-17 Thread rexx
I have a preference for the Schulze method as well, since it is generally superior to many other methods, even if somewhat opaque in its mechanism. Examining the comparisons at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schulze_method#Comparison_table should give an indication of its strengths. The only probl

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-17 Thread James Farrar
On 17 September 2012 23:29, Katie Chan wrote: > On 17/09/2012 23:03, James Farrar wrote: > >> Certainly my sense of the various discussions over the past 18 months is >> that there's near-consensus on STV as the best alternative to the >> current system. I intend to draft a motion with new electi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-17 Thread Katie Chan
On 17/09/2012 23:03, James Farrar wrote: Certainly my sense of the various discussions over the past 18 months is that there's near-consensus on STV as the best alternative to the current system. I intend to draft a motion with new election rules for STV; if anyone has other systems they'd like t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-17 Thread James Farrar
OK, here's a very quick first draft of the motion and election rules for STV. http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LondonStatto/Proposed_EGM_Motion_on_Voting_System http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LondonStatto/Proposed_STV_Election_Rules Thoughts, questions, suggestions all gratefully received.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread rexx
He's mistaken. There is no mechanism in place for generating income from the domains qrpedia.org and qrwp.org. Commentators also need to differentiate between the site (which physically hosts the servers) and the domain names. WMUK's interest in QRpedia is in finding ways to ensure that the service

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Thomas Morton
Clearly what is needed, with some urgency is: * A clear statement from Roger as to what renumeration he is receiving, and what agreements he has in place with the Gibraltar tourist board etc. This will go to clearing up the confusion. * A clear statement about WMUK's intended involvement with thi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Chris Keating > wrote: > >> >> I understand the QRpedia software is freely reusable under the MIT >>> License, today. In other words – people in Brazil or India are able to use >>> the QRpedia technology too

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-17 Thread James Farrar
Certainly my sense of the various discussions over the past 18 months is that there's near-consensus on STV as the best alternative to the current system. I intend to draft a motion with new election rules for STV; if anyone has other systems they'd like to put forward I'll be happy to draft electi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On Sep 17, 2012 8:34 PM, "Chris Keating" > wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > Though I should clarify a few issues. 4 different issues have been > raised in this thread and it's important that they don't get conflated. > > > > 1. "Paid editing

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-17 Thread James Farrar
Now that I am no longer in the process of getting married, I can start making some progress on this. On Sep 17, 2012 9:48 PM, "Chris Keating" wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > >> Chris, if I may at least ask for a very short clarification of the no: >> are you confirming

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-17 Thread Chris Keating
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > Chris, if I may at least ask for a very short clarification of the no: are > you confirming there has been no communication/decision on the issue on > board level, or do you confirm there will be no such EGM (as far as the > board is concerned)?

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-17 Thread Lodewijk
Chris, if I may at least ask for a very short clarification of the no: are you confirming there has been no communication/decision on the issue on board level, or do you confirm there will be no such EGM (as far as the board is concerned)? Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/16 Chris Keating > > >> http://uk

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Sep 17, 2012 8:34 PM, "Chris Keating" wrote: > > Dear all, > > Though I should clarify a few issues. 4 different issues have been raised in this thread and it's important that they don't get conflated. > > 1. "Paid editing" > To respond to Tom Dalton's original point, there isn't any specific W

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Chris Keating wrote: > > I understand the QRpedia software is freely reusable under the MIT >> License, today. In other words – people in Brazil or India are able to use >> the QRpedia technology too, aren't they? And they will always be able to >> use it whenever

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Chris Keating
> I understand the QRpedia software is freely reusable under the MIT > License, today. In other words – people in Brazil or India are able to use > the QRpedia technology too, aren't they? And they will always be able to > use it whenever they want, without ever having to ask the current rights > h

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Chris Keating
Dear all, Though I should clarify a few issues. 4 different issues have been raised in this thread and it's important that they don't get conflated. 1. "Paid editing" To respond to Tom Dalton's original point, there isn't any specific Wikimedia UK policy on "paid editing". We have never actively

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I understand the QRpedia software is freely reusable under the MIT License, today. In other words – people in Brazil or India are able to use the QRpedia technology too, aren't they? And they will always be able to use it whenever they want, without ever having to ask the current rights holders or

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread jon . davies
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread joseph seddon
My understanding is that there has been an ongoing delay in the transferring of the intellectual property to Wikimedia UK, this was the situation nearly 3 months ago. As far as I am aware there is still a delay in this on roger's side. Seddon Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:04:58 +0100 From: werespie

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Number of people the chapter has worked with

2012-09-17 Thread Richard Symonds
We're still pulling those stats together, but just in the last few weeks, the marvellous Coventry photo competition led to about 60 people getting involved. I'd hazard a guess at somewhere between 500 and 1,000 individuals who have been to WMUK-funded events in the past year - but that's a very bro

[Wikimediauk-l] Ada Lovelace Day organised by Wikimedia UK - 19 October 2012, London

2012-09-17 Thread Daria Cybulska
Dear all, It's Ada Lovelace Day on 16 October and it's most suitable for Wikimedia UK to get involved. The day exists to celebrate the contributions of women in the fields of science, technology, engineering and mathematics. As you may know, Ada Lovelace is considered the first programmer, due to

[Wikimediauk-l] Number of people the chapter has worked with

2012-09-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
I'm at an event about open data and charities and someone has just asked how many people each delegate's charity has worked with (term not defined) in the last year. I wonder whether Wikimedia-UK keep such stats? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Doug Weller wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > > > This is paid Wikipedia editing and paid Wikipedia-based PR work, > leveraging > > a Wikimedia UK directorship. It looks terrible. > > > > Take coverage like this article here: > >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread WereSpielChequers
I don't have a problem with the UK chapter giving a few "how to edit leaflets" out to someone who is encouraging people how to edit. But I would appreciate a little clarification re QRpedia. Can someone tell me who owns the http://qrpedia.org domain name? If I'm correct in my understanding of QR

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Doug Weller
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > This is paid Wikipedia editing and paid Wikipedia-based PR work, leveraging > a Wikimedia UK directorship. It looks terrible. > > Take coverage like this article here: > > http://vox.gi/local/5634-gibraltarpedia-on-the-road-to-success.html

[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread David Gerard
To list as well. Gah! Why did we set it this way again? -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard Date: 17 September 2012 13:32 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin To: Andreas Kolbe On 17 September 2012 13:19, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > I'm sorry, but I ag

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 17/09/12 02:09, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > Jimbo has commented on his talk page: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Gibraltarpedia.2C_Wikimedia_UK_and_concerns_about_paid_editing_and_conflicts_of_interest_within_Wikimed

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] List configuration - reply-to

2012-09-17 Thread Richard Symonds
I'll send an email to the other list owners today about it. Might take a few days, bear with us! Richard Symonds On 17 September 2012 12:41, Thomas Dalton wrote: > I've just accidentally sent another email offlist... as previously > requested, can someone please change the list settings back

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Richard Symonds
I assume that people are finding the details out online, and they're then assuming that we're the best people to contact (confusion between 'Wikimedians from the UK' and 'Wikimedia UK'). As far as I know, no-one's been given our contact details in relation to the project, and the site at http://en.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Gordon Joly
On 17/09/12 12:48, Andreas Kolbe wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Thomas Dalton mailto:thomas.dal...@gmail.com>> wrote: Accidentally sent offlist... Same thing happened to me yesterday ... I clicked Reply, and it went to a list member's private mail account, rather than the list

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Accidentally sent offlist... > Same thing happened to me yesterday ... I clicked Reply, and it went to a list member's private mail account, rather than the list. Is it possible to change the default behaviour of the Reply button back? It

[Wikimediauk-l] List configuration - reply-to

2012-09-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
I've just accidentally sent another email offlist... as previously requested, can someone please change the list settings back to having replies go to the list automatically like they do on every other mailing list I subscribe to? Inconveniencing everyone like this in order to protect a few people

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
Accidentally sent offlist... On 17 September 2012 12:33, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 17 September 2012 09:33, Jon Davies wrote: >> Good morning Tom. >> >> Meeting minutes cannot offer a level of detail that will ever be sufficient >> by their very nature but in answer to your specific question: >>

[Wikimediauk-l] Parkinson's UK Wikipedia training (Thursday 11 October 2012) - we need trainers

2012-09-17 Thread Daria Cybulska
Dear all, Parkinson's UK has contacted Wikimedia UK with a request to have a introductory Wikipedia training run for them on Thursday* 11 October*, 10am-4pm, London. They have found out about us after hearing about the Cancer Research collaboration, and were inspired to also help Wikipedia in the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Jon Davies
Good morning Tom. Meeting minutes cannot offer a level of detail that will ever be sufficient by their very nature but in answer to your specific question: The board agreed that we would be happy to supply 'learn to edit' booklets and and some office support. In reality this means referring any ca

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread wheredevelsdare
I believe the matter was discussed at Board level when Roger, iirc at the time WMUK Chair, took up consulting with the Monmouth Council and he resigned from the post of Chair as a result of this assignment. Can a Board Member please shed more light on this? Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:28:02 +010

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

2012-09-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Sep 17, 2012 3:01 AM, "Richard Symonds" wrote: > > it's very late, so I'll keep this short until I'm in work tomorrow; but the 'in kind support' amounts to a few dozen A4 'learn to edit' leaflets, nothing more. The resolution in the minutes is a lot broader than that. If the intention was just