[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 Feedback

2014-08-12 Thread
I thought a thread on Wikimedia-l might be useful for folks to share feedback and their experiences, good or bad. I understand there is a survey which we should remember to complete, and there has been a lot of chat on Facebook, but I have a natural aversion to that space. :-) My tuppence worth

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014: On journalism

2013-08-20 Thread brian . mcneil
We're looking a year ahead, so we should have plenty of time to sort things out. But, the UK has some particularly-talented Wikinewsies (I'm looking at Iain Macdonald, Tom Morris and Paul Williams in particular). It would be short-sighted, in the extreme, not to ask the UK-resident

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014: On journalism

2013-08-20 Thread Toni Sant
Brian - Is the fact that Wikimedia UK is currently supporting a Wikimedian in Residence at the National Library of Scotland of any relevance to developing your idea? See http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/08/a-month-as-wikimedian-in-residence-at-the-national-library-of-scotland/ More than this,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014: On journalism

2013-08-20 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Brian, The obvious opportunity would be to take the fringe to the fringe. Every Wikimania needs some events for the day after Wikimania, why not make one option be to spend a few days at the fringe? I started the category fringe http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Fringeon the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-20 Thread Saad Choudri
...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Richard Symonds Sent: 19 March 2013 12:52 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London. It's a complex set of affairs - but this is something that we'll have to discuss

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon Joly
On 18/03/13 22:57, Katie Chan wrote: On 18/03/2013 22:47, Gordon Joly wrote: Seems that Wikimedia UK are the body involved in running this event Wikimedia UK is supporting the bid, offering advice and support where it can. The actual bid itself is led by volunteers Ed, James, Kimi,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon Joly
On 18/03/13 23:15, Michael Peel wrote: The thing I'm personally worried about is that not enough WMUK volunteers are engaging with the bid. So if you're reading this and you're not already involved in the bid, then please involve yourself! The bid mentions the 70,000 volunteers (Games Makers)

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Chris Keating
Will Wikimedia UK be company doing the business (hiring, contracts, publicity, registration, etc), or will a new company be formed for the purpose? We are looking at these kinds of details at the moment and haven't reached a firm decision, but I think we're tending towards the former. (For

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Charles Matthews
On 18 March 2013 23:16, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 March 2013 23:10, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: In this case, the bid isn't being submitted by volunteers and members of Wikimedia UK as part of Wikimedia UK. The bid is funded by WMUK, the bid team are operating

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread James Farrar
Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually see why these semantics matter - certainly compared with, for example, delivering a high-quality bid. On 19 March 2013 08:26, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 18 March 2013 23:16, Thomas

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon Joly
On 19/03/13 08:18, Chris Keating wrote: Will Wikimedia UK be company doing the business (hiring, contracts, publicity, registration, etc), or will a new company be formed for the purpose? We are looking at these kinds of details at the moment and haven't reached a firm decision,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon Joly
On 19/03/13 08:40, James Farrar wrote: Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually see why these semantics matter - certainly compared with, for example, delivering a high-quality bid. Very high quality. And that may be an issue the Barbican,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Charles Matthews
On 19 March 2013 08:40, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually see why these semantics matter - certainly compared with, for example, delivering a high-quality bid. On 19 March 2013 08:26, Charles Matthews

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon Joly
On 19/03/13 08:44, Gordon Joly wrote: On 19/03/13 08:40, James Farrar wrote: Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually see why these semantics matter - certainly compared with, for example, delivering a high-quality bid. Very high quality. And that

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Jon Davies
Some interesting comments here! First of all the idea of WMUK supporting the bid has been chewed over by the board for many months. In the end they agreed to support the bid. Wikimania bids have not come from chapters traditionally but from volunteers in the local community. The support of the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 March 2013 08:40, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually see why these semantics matter - certainly compared with, for example, delivering a high-quality bid. They don't. This thread is mostly

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Charles Matthews
On 19 March 2013 09:39, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 March 2013 08:40, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually see why these semantics matter - certainly compared with, for example,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 March 2013 09:52, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 19 March 2013 09:39, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 March 2013 08:40, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm being particularly dumb this early in the morning, but I can't actually

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Charles Matthews
On 19 March 2013 09:59, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 March 2013 09:52, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 19 March 2013 09:39, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 March 2013 08:40, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I'm being

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 19 March 2013 09:41, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: A subsidiary company? That would be my suggestion. It isolates the charity's main funds from the risks of the event (which will have a budget roughly equal to the annual budget of the rest of the charity, so the risks are pretty

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Richard Symonds
It's a complex set of affairs - but this is something that we'll have to discuss in part with the WMF's financial and legal teams, once the UK team win the bid. We're still in the first stages at the moment. Rest assured that we will be taking professional advice - but that any other opinions or

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 19 March 2013 15:42, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: [putting WM2013 hat on] Wikimedia Hong Kong thought about setting up a subsidiary company for Wikimania 2013 but decided against it. This is because the subsidiary company (and therefore Wikimania) will not enjoy charity benefits,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-19 Thread Gordon Joly
On 19/03/13 12:52, Richard Symonds wrote: It's a complex set of affairs - but this is something that we'll have to discuss in part with the WMF's financial and legal teams, once the UK team win the bid. We're still in the first stages at the moment. Rest assured that we will be taking

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-18 Thread Gordon Joly
Seems that Wikimedia UK are the body involved in running this event Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-18 Thread Gordon Joly
On 18/03/13 22:47, Gordon Joly wrote: Seems that Wikimedia UK are the body involved in running this event Gordo And we are all volunteers! They need 50 per day Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-18 Thread Thomas Dalton
Did you have a point? On 18 March 2013 22:47, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: Seems that Wikimedia UK are the body involved in running this event Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-18 Thread Katie Chan
On 18/03/2013 22:47, Gordon Joly wrote: Seems that Wikimedia UK are the body involved in running this event Wikimedia UK is supporting the bid, offering advice and support where it can. The actual bid itself is led by volunteers Ed, James, Kimi, Anastasia, ... -- Katie Chan Any views

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-18 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 18 March 2013 22:57, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: On 18/03/2013 22:47, Gordon Joly wrote: Seems that Wikimedia UK are the body involved in running this event Wikimedia UK is supporting the bid, offering advice and support where it can. The actual bid itself is led by

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-18 Thread Deryck Chan
Alternatively, we need to get used to the idea that if all the lead organisers are members and volunteers of WMUK, and WMUK as an organisation also claims to support the event, it will be considered as run by WMUK whatever we say otherwise. On Mar 18, 2013 11:02 PM, Thomas Dalton

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 March 2013 23:10, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: In this case, the bid isn't being submitted by volunteers and members of Wikimedia UK as part of Wikimedia UK. They are doing it as individuals with the support of Wikimedia UK the organisation. Going with your wording, just because

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 in London.

2013-03-18 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 18 March 2013 23:10, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: In this case, the bid isn't being submitted by volunteers and members of Wikimedia UK as part of Wikimedia UK. The bid is funded by WMUK, the bid team are operating out of the WMUK office and the intention is for everything to be booked

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014

2013-02-05 Thread Thomas Dalton
The deadline for people the create bids for Wikimania 2014 has now passed. London is the only official bid on the bidding page, although there is an unofficial bid from Tanzania that is active so will probably more up the page soon. So far, the Tanzanian bid doesn't look particularly credible

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 organising committee

2012-05-14 Thread HJ Mitchell
As some of the members of this list will be aware, there was a meeting yesterday morning of parties interested in a UK bid for Wikimania 2012. The minutes of the meeting are available at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014/Planning_meeting_1/Notes for those who are interested. As a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014

2012-05-05 Thread James Forrester
On 5 May 2012 17:23, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: It is clear that a lot of people want to come but can't make the proposed date. I've created a doodle poll here for people to specify what dates they can make so we can find a date and time that best suits everyone:

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014

2012-05-05 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 5 May 2012 17:46, James Forrester ja...@jdforrester.org wrote: There's a lot of time until the 2014 bidding process starts (indeed, we need to work out what the new process /is/), so there's no reason we couldn't do two meetings, say one next Sunday (after the WikiConference), and one on

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014

2012-05-05 Thread HJ Mitchell
demand.     Harry From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2012, 18:04 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 On 5 May 2012 17:46, James Forrester ja...@jdforrester.org wrote: There's a lot

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014

2012-05-05 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 5 May 2012 21:12, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: As I think I said somewhere before, there isn't going to be a perfect date. So far, the morning after the AGM has more yess than any other date, and several of the proposed alternatives clash with meetups/events in Liverpool,

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014

2012-05-04 Thread HJ Mitchell
Folks, Jon has very kindly offered to open up the office the WMUK office on the Sunday morning after the AGM (that's the 13th) for a planning meeting to discuss a London bid for Wikimania 2014 if there is demand. If you're interested in attending the meeting (you won't be committing yourself

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014

2012-05-04 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 4 May 2012 13:34, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: For those of us outside London, putting as many WMUK events on the same weekend might be a bonus. Just to say :) True, although I would expect the ratio of Londoners to non-Londoners at a London Wikimania planning meeting

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014

2012-05-04 Thread HJ Mitchell
May 2012, 13:28 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014 I think there is a monthly London meetup that afternoon. If we have a planning meeting that morning, then that is the entire weekend dedicated to Wikimedia... that might be a bit much for people! I suggested the afternoon of the 27th May

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania 2014

2012-05-04 Thread Jon Davies
Why not discuss the whole of the UK as some of the lessons will be the same? That way we can learn form a whole load of lessons. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: On 4 May 2012 13:34, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: For those of us