Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Petr Kadlec
Is the code available and I have missed it? Do we have any other implementation? I tried to do something similar (two examples are at http://mormegil.info/wp/blame/AIM.htm http://mormegil.info/wp/blame/AFC_Ajax.htm); the code is nothing secret, even though it is not too clean, and there is also

[Wikitech-l] Make upload headings changeable

2009-01-26 Thread Marcus Buck
In function getInitialPageText in SpecialUpload.php hardcoded headings are added to the license and file description provided by the user. It would be great, if those hardcoded headings could be changed to a MediaWiki message that can be altered onwiki. On Commons, which is multilingual, for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Make upload headings changeable

2009-01-26 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Marcus Buck w...@marcusbuck.org wrote: And then I want to bring back to mind my last message about localize transcluded image description pages. My proposal was easy to implement, uncontroversial, so I think, and it would provide a big gain in usability. At

Re: [Wikitech-l] Make upload headings changeable

2009-01-26 Thread Chad
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Marcus Buck w...@marcusbuck.org wrote: Aryeh Gregor hett schreven: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Marcus Buck w...@marcusbuck.org wrote: And then I want to bring back to mind my last message about localize transcluded image description pages. My

Re: [Wikitech-l] Make upload headings changeable

2009-01-26 Thread Marcus Buck
Chad hett schreven: Wouldn't exactly work. You'd need to cache per-language, or otherwise all users would get the latest cached version, whatever it happens to be. We should probably pass the language as a parameter, so it can be called there appropriately. We'll cache it a level above, which

Re: [Wikitech-l] Make upload headings changeable

2009-01-26 Thread Chad
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Marcus Buck w...@marcusbuck.org wrote: Chad hett schreven: Wouldn't exactly work. You'd need to cache per-language, or otherwise all users would get the latest cached version, whatever it happens to be. We should probably pass the language as a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Make upload headings changeable

2009-01-26 Thread Chad
I was going to provide a specific parameter for it. That entire key sucks though anyway, I should probably ditch the md5()'d URL in favor of using the actual name. Fwiw: I've got a patch working, but I'm not quite ready to commit it yet. While we're at it, are we sure we want to use $wgLang and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Make upload headings changeable

2009-01-26 Thread Marcus Buck
Chad hett schreven: I was going to provide a specific parameter for it. That entire key sucks though anyway, I should probably ditch the md5()'d URL in favor of using the actual name. Fwiw: I've got a patch working, but I'm not quite ready to commit it yet. While we're at it, are we sure we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Make upload headings changeable

2009-01-26 Thread Ilmari Karonen
Chad wrote: I was going to provide a specific parameter for it. That entire key sucks though anyway, I should probably ditch the md5()'d URL in favor of using the actual name. Fwiw: I've got a patch working, but I'm not quite ready to commit it yet. While we're at it, are we sure we want to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Transcoding Video Contributions in Mediawiki

2009-01-26 Thread Michael Dale
good points I don't think it would be a _bad_ idea to support server side transcoding it ofcourse gives more flexibility to have the original file and then let us target different output formats in the future. Would let us support camera video uploads etc. But there are logistical issues.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Robert Rohde
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Petr Kadlec petr.kad...@gmail.com wrote: Is the code available and I have missed it? Do we have any other implementation? I tried to do something similar (two examples are at http://mormegil.info/wp/blame/AIM.htm http://mormegil.info/wp/blame/AFC_Ajax.htm);

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] When the license calls for attribution to be treated in a reasonable way, I suspect that one could make a good case that relying on a good blame engine would often generate a reasonable attempt at attribution, [snip]

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Soxred93
It's more of a starting point, to flag editors who may have made the edits. All that would remain is looking over if that user did in fact make that edit (and if they didn't, it's back to square 1) On Jan 26, 2009, at 3:38 PM [Jan 26, 2009 ], Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Platonides
Gregory Maxwell wrote: Often, sure— But what happens when it fails and you have someone yelling loudly on the talk page Hey! it's misattributing my authorship to some dumb bot, yet I wrote the whole thing! ... It's not reasonable by any human (or legal) standard to continue to misattribute

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article blaming

2009-01-26 Thread Robert Rohde
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Ilmari Karonen nos...@vyznev.net wrote: Platonides wrote: Gregory Maxwell wrote: It's not reasonable by any human (or legal) standard to continue to misattribute in a case like that, yet addressing that case with some automatically generated report is not

[Wikitech-l] AbuseFilter extension testing

2009-01-26 Thread Brion Vibber
Quick note -- we're now testing Werdna's AbuseFilter extension on test.wikipedia.org. AbuseFilter will make it easier for on-wiki admins to set up automatic detection and tagging in response to common suspect editing patterns. A lot of this kind of filtering is being done in client-side bot