Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread MZMcBride
Krinkle wrote: > There's a bot in #wikimedia-toolserver reporting activity on [toolserver-l], > I'll see if I can get a similar thing going for [wikitech-l]. In which channel > would we want this though ? > > I assume #wikimedia-tech although, like Ryan said about dev/ops related, > perhaps better

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-18 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote: >> Wikimedia doesn't technically use delta compression. It concatenates a >> couple dozen adjacent revisions of the same page and compresses that >> (with gzip?), achieving very good compre

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Krinkle
Op 19 jan 2011, om 00:11 heeft Ryan Lane het volgende geschreven: >> I'm not doing much on IRC, and apparently I'm not alone with that >> here. >> >> Assuming that someone reporting a problem to wikitech-l will start a >> new thread (as I did), how about auto-posting each new thread subject >> l

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-18 Thread Alex Brollo
It seems a complely different topic, but: is there something to learn about text saving from the smart trick of TeX formulas storing? I did a little bit of "reverse engineering" on that algorithm, I did never find anything useful application from it, but much fun. :-) Alex

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-18 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/1/19 Aryeh Gregor : > We used to do this, but the problem was that many articles are much > larger than the compression window of typical compression algorithms, > so the redundancy between adjacent revisions wasn't helping > compression except for short articles.  Tim wrote a diff-based histo

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-18 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > Wikimedia doesn't technically use delta compression. It concatenates a > couple dozen adjacent revisions of the same page and compresses that > (with gzip?), achieving very good compression ratios because there is > a huge amount of duplicatio

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Ryan Lane
> I'm not doing much on IRC, and apparently I'm not alone with that here. > > Assuming that someone reporting a problem to wikitech-l will start a > new thread (as I did), how about auto-posting each new thread subject > line from wikitech-l on IRC automatically? > > (here I am again, throwing tech

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Magnus Manske
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Ryan Lane wrote: > Thankfully, I do read wikitech-l often, but please, please, report > this on IRC as well, if possible everyone. I'm not doing much on IRC, and apparently I'm not alone with that here. Assuming that someone reporting a problem to wikitech-l wil

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting and first letters

2011-01-18 Thread Maciej Jaros
Maciej Jaros (2011-01-18 15:42): > Tim Starling (2011-01-18 02:03): >> On 18/01/11 07:41, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >>> 2011/1/17 Tim Starling: * It automatically drops accents, since accented letters sort the same as unaccented letters (at the primary level). >>> How locale aware is it? For

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > I get long wait times for images from Commons (>10sec even for small > thumbnails). The browsers (Commons, Firefox) also seem to load the > same image repeatedly, even though it should be in cache. > > I'm in the UK. Everything else seems nor

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Same in the U.S. Seeing tons of missing thumbnails, although they do seem to load after a few minutes. Ryan Kaldari On 1/18/11 1:10 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > I get long wait times for images from Commons (>10sec even for small > thumbnails). The browsers (Commons, Firefox) also seem to load the

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Magnus Manske
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Krinkle wrote: > Op 18 jan 2011, om 22:10 heeft Magnus Manske het volgende geschreven: > >> I get long wait times for images from Commons (>10sec even for small >> thumbnails). The browsers (Commons, Firefox) also seem to load the >> same image repeatedly, even tho

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Krinkle
Op 18 jan 2011, om 22:10 heeft Magnus Manske het volgende geschreven: > I get long wait times for images from Commons (>10sec even for small > thumbnails). The browsers (Commons, Firefox) also seem to load the > same image repeatedly, even though it should be in cache. > > I'm in the UK. Everythin

[Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-18 Thread Magnus Manske
I get long wait times for images from Commons (>10sec even for small thumbnails). The browsers (Commons, Firefox) also seem to load the same image repeatedly, even though it should be in cache. I'm in the UK. Everything else seems normal (well, I'm in the UK, but otherwise... ;-). ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Minimum PHP now 5.2 in trunk (was: [Mediawiki-l] about requiring PHP 5.2)

2011-01-18 Thread Soxred93
On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Chad wrote: > +1 here. a::b syntax is less keystrokes having to use an array. Also > lets us remove the stupid hack from r68760[0] (probably similar things > elsewhere in the code) Can't forget the hack that is MWFunction::callArray, which is also a hack that is int

[Wikitech-l] Minimum PHP now 5.2 in trunk (was: [Mediawiki-l] about requiring PHP 5.2)

2011-01-18 Thread Chad
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > I don't think JSON support is particularly important since it can > easily be simulated, and I don't think you should use the filter > extension in MediaWiki, regardless of whether it is supported. > I agree about filter. Having native JSON su

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting and first letters

2011-01-18 Thread Maciej Jaros
Tim Starling (2011-01-18 02:03): > On 18/01/11 07:41, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> 2011/1/17 Tim Starling: >>> * It automatically drops accents, since accented letters sort the same >>> as unaccented letters (at the primary level). >> How locale aware is it? For example, in Swedish accented letters co

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMDE Developer Meetup moved to May

2011-01-18 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 17.01.2011 19:53, Ashar Voultoiz wrote: > On 17/01/11 17:11, Daniel Kinzler wrote: >> * There will be a hackathon hosted by Wikimedia Germany in (late) May, >> probably >> in Berlin, but that's not decided yet. This will mostly about hacking, with a >> strong focus on GLAM related stuff. There

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMDE Developer Meetup moved to May

2011-01-18 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 17.01.2011 19:38, Bryan Tong Minh wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: >> * There will be a hackathon hosted by Wikimedia Germany in (late) May, >> probably >> in Berlin, but that's not decided yet. This will mostly about hacking, with a >> strong focus on GLAM relat

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting and first letters

2011-01-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/1/18 Tim Starling : > On 18/01/11 07:41, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> And i don't know what to do when in the Lithuanian Wikipedia you sort >> names of places in the UK - should Islington come before or after >> York? > > Before. > >> $collator = new Collator('lt') >> print $collator->compare( 'I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cross-wiki user talk notification

2011-01-18 Thread Jérémie Roquet
2011/1/17 Platonides : > Jérémie Roquet á écrit: >> I guess I should really dive into MediaWiki development… > Feel free to send us patches. :) > See my previous message about using CentralAuth for that. CentralAuth > extension is not really an entry level extension, but you may have luck > since y