Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-07 Thread Merlijn van Deen
On 7 June 2012 00:46, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: So far it seems to be working fine. We're seeing some edits being made over IPv6, and IPv6 traffic is in the low tens of Mbps range. At the very least, all pywikipedia bots on the toolserver will edit over IPv6 - and I think a lot of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit question: pushing to another branch

2012-06-07 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Bergi a.d.be...@web.de wrote: But I thought there was a possibility to push to our repository without using Gerrit / being affected by Gerrit at all? I can understand that Gerrit is a nice review tool which is useful for the production and master branches, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Ryan Lane
I'm not sure if it makes sense to have the Labs/OpenStack/Nova management interface on this same new wikitech wiki though. This means that all the community projects running inside labs will/might use this same wiki to document their internal structure - which can (and should be) a lot of

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-07 Thread Chad
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 8:30 AM, John W. Foster jfoster81...@verizon.net wrote: So now I'm asking you guys. Any interest? Interested yes...but I use the Debian stable to run my servers, and have adopted the process of using the tarballs myself as there is absolutely no reason to use a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-07 Thread Brad Jorsch
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 09:26:25AM +0200, Merlijn van Deen wrote: On 7 June 2012 00:46, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: So far it seems to be working fine. We're seeing some edits being made over IPv6, and IPv6 traffic is in the low tens of Mbps range. At the very least, all

[Wikitech-l] Bugzilla database replication

2012-06-07 Thread John
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28339 has been just sitting their stale for quite a while. I know as a toolserver user, that there is a potential for a lot of useful tools. Who do I need to bribe or murder in order to facilitate this process? John

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-07 Thread David Gerard
On 6 June 2012 23:53, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote: By the way, I noticed today that this page exists and is in sore need of updating: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Debian_GNU/Linux - d. ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla database replication

2012-06-07 Thread Krinkle
On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:15 PM, John wrote: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28339 has been just sitting their stale for quite a while. I know as a toolserver user, that there is a potential for a lot of useful tools. Who do I need to bribe or murder in order to facilitate this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Krinkle
On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Ryan Lane wrote: I'm not sure if it makes sense to have the Labs/OpenStack/Nova management interface on this same new wikitech wiki though. This means that all the community projects running inside labs will/might use this same wiki to document their internal

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Petr Bena
I don't understand why? Wikitech is a perfect place for bots documentation as well, especially when it comes to large bots operated by many people, these needs to have documentation so that they can be overtaken by someone else in case the original person who launched bot, doesn't have a time to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Petr Bena
There is a difference between wikimedia projects which are somehow related to wikimedia projects, and foundation projects which are funded by foundation. But this difference is only about people and money, so why should we have a different wiki for that On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Petr Bena

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Petr Bena
I wanted to say volunteer projects which are affiliated with various wikimedia projects On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: There is a difference between wikimedia projects which are somehow related to wikimedia projects, and foundation projects which are funded

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-07 Thread Chad
We should kill those distro-specific pages and I've been saying that for years. Most of the advice ends up being rather generic, it forks the content, and they generally end up being abandoned and out of date. -Chad On Jun 7, 2012 10:26 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 June 2012

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Chad
I agree with Petr, I see no reason to put them on different wikis. Namespaces are cheap. -Chad On Jun 7, 2012 11:20 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand why? Wikitech is a perfect place for bots documentation as well, especially when it comes to large bots operated by

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 June 2012 16:26, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: We should kill those distro-specific pages and I've been saying that for years. Most of the advice ends up being rather generic, it forks the content, and they generally end up being abandoned and out of date. *Not while they need to

[Wikitech-l] Announcement: Adam Wight joins Wikimedia as Fundraising Engineer

2012-06-07 Thread Terry Chay
Hello everyone, It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Adam Wight has joined the Wikimedia Foundation as a Fundraising Engineer. Before joining us, Adam was customizing open-source web services for non-profits at Giant Rabbit. This makes him the first Fundraising

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-07 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 06/07/2012 12:55 PM, David Gerard wrote: I'll start hacking that page to bits, on the assumption that it needs burning and starting over. What is Debian's mailing list for MediaWiki? I went looking for it and couldn't find it ... http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mediawiki-devel/

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Announcement: Adam Wight joins Wikimedia as Fundraising Engineer

2012-06-07 Thread James Alexander
Welcome Terry! Welcome to WMF and to fundraising, from my past experiences I know you'll have fun :). On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Terry Chay tc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello everyone, It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Adam Wight has joined the Wikimedia Foundation as a

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 June 2012 18:07, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote: On 06/07/2012 12:55 PM, David Gerard wrote: I'll start hacking that page to bits, on the assumption that it needs burning and starting over. What is Debian's mailing list for MediaWiki? I went looking for it and couldn't find

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-07 Thread Platonides
On 07/06/12 00:53, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: I'd happily add hooks they needed to remove the need of patching for MediaWiki packagers, or including a script to move if that's what they really want. Packaging is happening right now. Look at the patches they're making here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Once figured out, might be a good idea to add them to: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jonathan_de_Boyne_Pollard/Guide_to_blocking_IP_version_6_addresses DJ On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Brad Jorsch b-jor...@alum.northwestern.edu wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 09:26:25AM +0200, Merlijn

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-07 Thread Risker
The first IPv6 edit to English Wikipedia required suppression, I have been advised, so I think there are some valid concerns about the implications this change will have on vandalism management. Does nobody else see the issues associated with having what little guidance there is about IPv6 locked

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-07 Thread Chad
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/06/12 00:53, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: I'd happily add hooks they needed to remove the need of patching for MediaWiki packagers, or including a script to move if that's what they really want. Packaging is happening

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-07 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 06/07/2012 01:45 PM, Platonides wrote: So yes, I'm happy we are improving collaboration packagers - upstream. Thanks for looking at it! I'll make sure they see your comments. Mark. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Announcement: Adam Wight joins Wikimedia as Fundraising Engineer

2012-06-07 Thread James Alexander
I clearly am FAR too spacy today ;) Obviously Welcome ADAM Terry was already welcomed a while ago :P James On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:33 AM, James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Welcome Terry! Welcome to WMF and to fundraising, from my past experiences I know you'll have fun :).

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Announcement: Adam Wight joins Wikimedia as Fundraising Engineer

2012-06-07 Thread Arthur Richards
Welcome Adam, it's great to have you aboard :) On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:27 AM, James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.orgwrote: I clearly am FAR too spacy today ;) Obviously Welcome ADAM Terry was already welcomed a while ago :P James On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:33 AM, James Alexander

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Announcement: Adam Wight joins Wikimedia as Fundraising Engineer

2012-06-07 Thread Platonides
On 07/06/12 20:35, Arthur Richards wrote: Welcome Adam, it's great to have you aboard :) Welcome, Adam Wight. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-07 Thread Platonides
On 07/06/12 16:04, Brad Jorsch wrote: At the very least, all pywikipedia bots on the toolserver will edit over IPv6 - and I think a lot of the non-pywikipedia bots also, unless they resolve IP addresses manually. Of course, they won't edit anonymously, so you'll only see it in the access logs.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread MZMcBride
Chad wrote: I agree with Petr, I see no reason to put them on different wikis. Namespaces are cheap. Namespaces are usually a pain in the ass. Sj's post on the subject: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedia.orgdiff=365735 6oldid=3657294#Separating_the_wheat_from_the_chaff.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-07 Thread MZMcBride
Risker wrote: The first IPv6 edit to English Wikipedia required suppression, I have been advised, so I think there are some valid concerns about the implications this change will have on vandalism management. Does nobody else see the issues associated with having what little guidance there

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Ryan Lane
Namespaces are usually a pain in the ass. Sj's post on the subject: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedia.orgdiff=365735 6oldid=3657294#Separating_the_wheat_from_the_chaff. From his post: ... but that would address many of the reasons that people fragment what are

[Wikitech-l] OAuth

2012-06-07 Thread Chris Steipp
Hi all, Thanks to everyone who contributed user stories about ways that would like to see OAuth incorporated into MediaWiki! A few of us here at WMF have looked at the stories, and I've distilled them down to some general statements about what it seems like the community wants from the project

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tarballs and the WMF

2012-06-07 Thread Tim Starling
On 07/06/12 03:36, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: The Foundation has made MediaWiki available for everyone and that's a great thing. But Wikimedia's funding comes from donations as a result of requests on Wikipedia, not from distribution of MediaWiki, so they are rightly focused on their