This discussion has turned into a bit of a general IPv6 discussion,
rather than a Wikipedia-on-IPv6 or Mediawiki-tools-IPv6-support discussion.
Marcin Cieslak wrote:
You *DON'T* want to renumber your whole home network every time
your ISP changes your IPv6 prefix.
You probably don't want to
Hello Wikimedia's system administrators and developers,
I am a PhD student from Institute IMDEA Networks, Spain. I very much
appreciate the data that you have published in Wikimedia Report Card. I
am writing this email as a kind request for a possible cooperation for
assisting me in my research
As someone who writes css, I am particularly frightened by IE7. And I can
imagine there are a lot of frontend developers and staff out there who
spend significant time on fixing things for this niche audience, when they
could be working on more constructive things. I came across this service
today
Hi,
I saw this morning those reviewed but not merged code changes in gerrit:
Parser issue for HTML definition list
Bug 11748: Handle optionally-closed HTML tags without tidy
2012-04-17
Owner: GWicke
Review: +1 by saper
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11748
Hi,
If you didn't take the Arun Ganesh's proposition seriously, you can
ignore this mail.
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:
As someone who writes css, I am particularly frightened by IE7. And I can
imagine there are a lot of frontend developers and
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe it time to start showing a notice to IE7
users that their days are numbered and wikipedia may no longer work as
expected unless they move forward in their lives. It has to happen some
day, so why not now and
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:
As one of the most visited places on the internet, it is probably in the
best interests of the planet that we decide its no longer worthwhile to
support this fallen angel. Maybe it time to start showing a notice to IE7
Absolutely not. We have debated the show notice to broken browsers
thing multiple times--and the answer is always it's annoying as hell
when sites do it and it's not our place to do so.
The stance on supporting crappy old browsers has largely over time
turned into--continue supporting all
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote:
6% of wikimedia project page views are from IE6/7 - because of the
following:
- IE6 ships default with XP
- Legal users with SP2+ can upgrade to IE8
- If you have 90s era hardware, no SP for you. Can only be solved by
Second is certain types of Enterprise shops. Before I was hired at WMF,
I worked for a company that processes complex financial records for
pharmacies participating in a US federal program that reimburses
pharmacies for the cost of drugs prescribed for indigent patients. Well
over 50% of
our
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Chris McMahon cmcma...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote:
6% of wikimedia project page views are from IE6/7 - because of the
following:
- IE6 ships default with XP
- Legal users with SP2+ can
No, I'm pretty sure that's not true at all. Even if they are running a
pirated version they can still update their browsers.
Not sure about Internet Explorer 8, but as of October 2007, you don't need a
genuine copy of Windows XP to move from IE6 to IE7. [1]
I'm not sure when they made this
On 14.06.2012, 18:20 Derric wrote:
No, I'm pretty sure that's not true at all. Even if they are running a
pirated version they can still update their browsers.
Not sure about Internet Explorer 8, but as of October 2007, you don't need a
genuine copy of Windows XP to move from IE6 to IE7. [1]
The analytics team has written A script to generate such reports and we will
publish these results shortly once we have enough data points
Best
Diederik
Sent from my iPhone
On 2012-06-14, at 4:31, Sébastien Santoro dereck...@espace-win.org wrote:
Hi,
I saw this morning those reviewed but
2012/6/14 Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com:
Furthermore, whatever Windows you have or whether you paid for it or
not, there are lots of free browsers that are much better than even
newest IE anyway.
+1.
But in any case, we must not annoy any significant
part of our audience.
We are site
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
2012/6/14 Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com:
But in any case, we must not annoy any significant
part of our audience.
We are site number 5 in popularity, more or less. We are talking about
annoying less
That's their prerogative--they're trying to sell a product.
I personally think IE6/7 users would be better served by
ditching IE entirely--preferably to a WebKit-based browser.
Others might suggest Firefox. Others would say to grab
the latest IE. There's even some weird kids who might
suggest
Sébastien Santoro dereck...@espace-win.org wrote:
Hi,
I saw this morning those reviewed but not merged code changes in gerrit:
Parser issue for HTML definition list
Bug 11748: Handle optionally-closed HTML tags without tidy
2012-04-17
Owner: GWicke
Review: +1 by saper
Pradeep -
You may have better luck with this request at a network specific group
such as nanog, arin, or ripe. A group such as Arbor Networks may also
have a large amount of information on this request. I'm not the
end-all of this information but I believe that it would be both
non-trivial and a
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
Absolutely not. We have debated the show notice to broken browsers
thing multiple times--and the answer is always it's annoying as hell
when sites do it and it's not our place to do so.
The stance on supporting crappy old
Yes, Microsoft was great when they made IE 6, but when IE 7 came out, Microsoft
killed
the Internet star. I mean, HTML 5? What? I read a book that said after HTML
4.01, it would
be XHTML 1.0, XHTML 1.1 ... not HTML 5!
Tyler Z
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:45:20 +0200, Andre Engels wrote:
On Thu,
You do know we still support IE6 right? We should probably discuss dropping IE6
support before IE7 :)
Ryan Kaldari
On Jun 14, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
Absolutely not. We have debated
I agree with Chris and Derric here; at least in the western world, a
large percentage of IE7 users have not upgraded for Enterprise reasons.
Many of these enterprises use proprietary software that is written for IE7,
and upgrading to the IE9 versions can be cost-prohibitive. Often by waiting
Another approach to consider for IE6/7 users is where it makes sense ship a
stylesheet which hides everything other than the content. I believe
Wikipedia should be accessible to all regardless of their browser choices.
Here is the IE6 one for those who haven't seen it - there is also an IE7
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
Another approach to consider for IE6/7 users is where it makes sense ship a
stylesheet which hides everything other than the content. I believe
Wikipedia should be accessible to all regardless of their browser choices.
Ole wrote:
Various cultural institutions in Denmark are planning a cultural heritage
hackathon in the autumn. They are still in the google-doc-phase:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asi52gKHCCyOdG9naG55Y2xtVnlaLUtyUjRBUWhZQ1E#gid=1
Perhaps someone is interested in chipping in
Le 03/06/12 03:38, Jeremy Baron a écrit :
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
Le 20/05/12 20:51, Jeroen De Dauw a écrit :
Awesome, just submitted my changes to this stuff to gerrit. But this is
only for notifications of stuff happening on gerrit right? What
Dear Leslie,
Thanks for responding. I guess my earlier email request was
misunderstood.
As Wikimedia report card publishes the unique visitors per geographic
region (http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/) similarly I was looking just for
the Autonomous System numbers (ASNs) (ISP's administrative
Max Semenik wrote:
But in any case, we must not annoy any significant part of our audience.
Let's put that in a sitenotice. :-)
MZMcBride
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Pradeep Bangera wrote:
I am a PhD student from Institute IMDEA Networks, Spain. I very much
appreciate the data that you have published in Wikimedia Report Card. I
am writing this email as a kind request for a possible cooperation for
assisting me in my research work by sharing your data
Antoine Musso wrote:
Le 07/06/12 17:00, Krinkle a écrit :
On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:15 PM, John wrote:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28339 has been just sitting
their stale for quite a while. I know as a toolserver user, that there is a
potential for a lot of useful tools. Who do
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