Re: [Wikitech-l] Using wiki pages as databases

2013-02-20 Thread Ori Livneh
On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Tim Starling wrote: On 19/02/13 21:11, MZMcBride wrote: Hi. In the context of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10621, the concept of using wiki pages as databases has come up. We're already beginning to see this: *

[Wikitech-l] Corrupt pages on English Wikipedia

2013-02-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
I've just had a colleague send me links to a couple of English Wikipedia articles that were displaying as complete garbage - it looked like corrupt character encoding or something (there was no UI - just a page full of random characters and boxes). Running ?action=purge on them sorted it out, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corrupt pages on English Wikipedia

2013-02-20 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 12:08 +, Thomas Dalton wrote: I've just had a colleague send me links to a couple of English Wikipedia articles that were displaying as complete garbage - it looked like corrupt character encoding or something (there was no UI - just a page full of random characters

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corrupt pages on English Wikipedia

2013-02-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 20 February 2013 12:11, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 12:08 +, Thomas Dalton wrote: I've just had a colleague send me links to a couple of English Wikipedia articles that were displaying as complete garbage - it looked like corrupt character encoding

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corrupt pages on English Wikipedia

2013-02-20 Thread Tim Starling
On 20/02/13 23:30, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 20 February 2013 12:11, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 12:08 +, Thomas Dalton wrote: I've just had a colleague send me links to a couple of English Wikipedia articles that were displaying as complete garbage - it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corrupt pages on English Wikipedia

2013-02-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 20 February 2013 12:43, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: It's not a test case after you've run action=purge on it. Which is why I didn't bother including the URLs in the initial report. If you want to report things like this, it's best if you don't run action=purge, or even

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corrupt pages on English Wikipedia

2013-02-20 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Brian, would you take a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug and maybe update it to clarify what sorts of information to try to hold on to for debugging purposes? On 02/20/2013 07:50 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 20 February 2013 12:43, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corrupt pages on English Wikipedia

2013-02-20 Thread Jeremy Baron
Hi Thomas, On Feb 20, 2013 8:59 AM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: My top priority was helping the person that reported it to read the page they wanted to read. A little gratitude to someone trying to help you fix a problem wouldn't go amiss... Thomas, thanks for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corrupt pages on English Wikipedia

2013-02-20 Thread bawolff
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Brian, would you take a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug and maybe update it to clarify what sorts of information to try to hold on to for debugging purposes? What sort of debugging

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome Greg Grossmeier, Release Manager

2013-02-20 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Thanks, all! Looking forward to working with everyone. Greg On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Alolita Sharma alolita.sha...@gmail.comwrote: Welcome Greg! Glad to see our release engineering process becoming stronger with your joining :-) -Alolita On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Sumana

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corrupt pages on English Wikipedia

2013-02-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 20 February 2013 16:32, bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com wrote: A little gratitude to someone trying to help you fix a problem wouldn't go amiss... We appreciate the bug report, we just can't do anything about it without more information. To give a (not entirely fair) comparison, imagine

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corrupt pages on English Wikipedia

2013-02-20 Thread MZMcBride
Sumana Harihareswara wrote: Brian, would you take a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug and maybe update it to clarify what sorts of information to try to hold on to for debugging purposes? More to the point (this is a list for developers, after all), if you're a developer

Re: [Wikitech-l] DevOps/Continuous Deployment discussion?

2013-02-20 Thread Juliusz Gonera
Sorry for digging up an old thread, but today I also started wondering if there's a way of making our deployments simpler and faster. I'm not a big fan of special highly orchestrated events when the whole team gathers and waits and then looks for regressions after deploying dozens of commits

Re: [Wikitech-l] DevOps/Continuous Deployment discussion?

2013-02-20 Thread Luke Welling WMF
I am strongly of the opinion that within broad ranges deployment frequency does not matter. It really does not matter if you deploy twice an hour or every second day. But, having the machinery to make it so that you could deploy twice an hour if you wanted to is all kinds of valuable. Putting

Re: [Wikitech-l] DevOps/Continuous Deployment discussion?

2013-02-20 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 02/20/2013 02:04 PM, Juliusz Gonera wrote: Sorry for digging up an old thread, but today I also started wondering if there's a way of making our deployments simpler and faster. Wikimedia is already doing deployments every other week. On top of that, a wiki that gets a lot of use and is used

Re: [Wikitech-l] DevOps/Continuous Deployment discussion?

2013-02-20 Thread Arthur Richards
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Juliusz Gonera jgon...@wikimedia.orgwrote: I'm not a big fan of special highly orchestrated events when the whole team gathers and waits and then looks for regressions after deploying dozens of commits at the same time. I don't know if this is true of other

Re: [Wikitech-l] DevOps/Continuous Deployment discussion?

2013-02-20 Thread Željko Filipin
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: I know the QA team has been talking about coordinating automated testing for mobile, but I'm not sure what the current status is - hopefully sooner rather than later ;) Everything is set up. The only missing piece

Re: [Wikitech-l] DevOps/Continuous Deployment discussion?

2013-02-20 Thread Arthur Richards
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.org wrote: I know the QA team has been talking about coordinating automated testing for mobile, but I'm not sure what the current status is -

[Wikitech-l] Module namespace

2013-02-20 Thread Bináris
What is the number of the new namespace we got from Scribunto? How can we localize the name of it? In huwiki it should be Modul rather than Module. We found only core namespaces in translatewiki. Thank you! -- Bináris ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module namespace

2013-02-20 Thread Petr Onderka
According to http://hu.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=querymeta=siteinfosiprop=namespaces (and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Namespace), it's 828. Petr Onderka [[en:User:Svick]] On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: What is the number of the new namespace

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module namespace

2013-02-20 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: What is the number of the new namespace we got from Scribunto? How can we localize the name of it? In huwiki it should be Modul rather than Module. We found only core namespaces in translatewiki. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:38

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who is responsible for accepting backported patch sets for maintained versions?

2013-02-20 Thread Greg Grossmeier
(apologies for the none-theading of this; I wasn't subscribed to wikitech-l with this address when this message/thread was sent) quote name=Mark A. Hershberger date=2013-02-19 time=23:09:18 On Tue 19 Feb 2013 04:39:25 PM EST, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: My longer term question is: Who is

[Wikitech-l] Commons mobile uploads testing week

2013-02-20 Thread Quim Gil
Uploading pictures from mobile devices to Wikimedia Commons must be simple for everybody! The Wikimedia Mobile engineering team has fresh software and you can help testing it. WHEN Kick-off on Monday February 25 at 17:30 UTC (9:30 PST - 23:00 IST). The testing focus will continue during the